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  1. Understand something about that though.. The Summer Olympics are a once every 4 years event. That means at most only 25 countries can host an Olympics in an entire century, and that's if there are no repeat hosts. I know the idea of smaller nations hosting an Olympics is alluring, but given the amount of money and resources they require to put together, it's not always such a wise idea to try and put that together. I don't want to imagine an Olympics being held in Qatar. It's a bad idea for so many reasons and I'm happy the IOC has flatly rejected the notion of Doha putting a bid in.
    5 points
  2. I promised there'd be Kylie, so here she is: I also promised we'd be in Melbourne, but you voted us straight to the destination - welcome to Brisbane proper, and to the legendary Gabba: But who will be so lucky (lucky, lucky, lucky) to win the comp? To find out, let's welcome another Aussie legend in her own right, live from her Melbourne mansion - the gladiolus queen herself, DAME EDNA! Edna: G'day possums! It's been wonderful to see all your designs, but only one can win - I don't have much time here, I have to perform the royal duties that are expected of one, but I do have the pleasure of announcing that the only one of these logos with the glamour and sophistication worthy of yours truly is the one designed by that great gladiolus... VICTORIAN! Yoshi: Thank you Dame Edna, you may now resume your important royal business. Yes, once again, we only needed one round to elect a champion, and although we're in Queensland, that champion is @Victorian! I believe this is also his first participation, meaning we've got two debutant winners The result of the only round was as follows: A: 1 B: 0 C: 1 D: 6 E: 2 A clear majority for another one-and-done - don't like voting much, do you :p And that's it for the 14th annual comp, once again thank you to all our designers, who made this a strong field, whatever the landslide results may say. And of course thanks to all the voters too - not gonna lie, once again, I thought we'd only get 2 of each :p Particular thanks as always to @Sir Rols for the images, the polls, the help, and the closing act idea, not to mention @paul who extracted the images from imgur which let Rols do the grids. This might be a rare occasion where you didn't win, but you were still invaluable And of course congrats to our winner @Victorian again - plus our Milan champ @Jon Will Chambers ! Finally, before the 4X all round, our closer as suggested by Rols himself - Eurovision bendy-pole-whisperer and Brisbane girl Kate Miller-Heidke, with a song written specially* to celebrate 14 years of logo comp fun. THANK YOU AND GOODNIGHT! *not written specifically...
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  3. Very exciting!!!! This is real now!!! A live in Melbourne and as much as I love my city, I would’ve had soccer in Queensland instead. A missed opportunity to not have Metricon Stadium used.
    3 points
  4. Are you seriously suggesting that COVID not only was intentionally released into the world (you're not the first person to suggest that), but that China did it in hopes of screwing over Japan in hopes it would help their Olympic aspirations? Not sure I can express just how batshit crazy that idea is if that's what you're suggesting. Yes, this all is extremely unfortunate for Japan their Olympics will now be anything but a joyous celebration. It's a separate conversation about the IOC and future Olympic hosts, although 1 thing you can be sure of is that Japan won't be in the running to be one of those hosts probably for a long long time. And at the very least, the priority is getting through these Olympics rather than trying to figure out how to do 1 in a future. 1 thing to note.. you talk about a future host being more of a region or even more of a full country rather than just a single city. That's already happening. Look no further than the 2026 Winter bids. 2032 with Brisbane seems like it may fit that mold as well. Any country or city/region at this point is welcome to present a plan such at that. But they need to offer up to the IOC why it makes sense and why they should be the "preferred bidder" as the story goes now
    3 points
  5. As I've said elsewhere the recent number of new daily cases in Japan is roughly the same as here in Pennsylvania, and we have a tenth of the population of Japan. I would love to have Japan's percentage and it just seems ridiculous that people want to call this off when I see what is going on here and elsewhere in our country.
    3 points
  6. It feels like I subscribed to a newsfeed from a local paper in South Queensland.
    3 points
  7. After cancelling the games due to covid, no foreign spectators, athletes competing at a high risk, hundred of athletes missing the games due to sanitary reasons, millions of dollars in lost, 80% of Japanese against the games, the most difficult Games ever to carry out ... a caludron who could set the stadium on fire... is all what they needed!!!!!
    3 points
  8. It does feel like things have swung too far in the other direction doesn't it? If the previous process was too brutal, left too much bad feeling amongst losers and populations who watched live on big screens in city squares as their bids failed, this process seems to be too secretive, and we're still getting cities complaining which is what Bach wanted to avoid! So even on its own terms it's not quite worked. And yes, it's open to accusations of cronyism even if none has taken place. I know that annoys some people, but that's why transparency of process is important. I can see what the intent is, but I wonder if they've got the balance right. There don't seem to be any set milestones, set timelines or anything anymore. Just out of the blue announcements.
    3 points
  9. Here's the issue the IOC has right now and I've seen some people echo this on Twitter... The IOC wants to play it both ways. I am sure that they will gladly push the narrative this summer - assuming the Olympics are a go - that they were responsible for the world coming back together. They were happy to push that North Korea/South Korea angle that it helped pave the way for peace talks. But now they're saying they don't get involved in world politics and want to avoid the discussion when it doesn't suit them. We can be pretty confident they won't say anything negative about China in the next year, but there's only so much they can do to drown on the negativity that's going to come along with having an Olympics there. It's probably a big help to them to have had Tokyo get delayed by a year and shorten the lead-up to Beijing. But come the end of August, this is going to be front and center on a lot of people's radar as we get closer to next Winter
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  10. You’re right that it won’t be able to host any aquatics competition as venues have already been announced and it’s a bit of wishful thinking on their part. But what Bundaberg can chase is to host an Olympic training camp for one or more of the visiting national squads which can be big bucks hiring out it’s entire pool. Often, a country’s swimming or water polo or artistic swimming squad will arrive in the Host country early to adjust to the local climate conditions, time zone, etc while trainig and ‘tapering’ for the Games. The larger the team the better with all the athletes and officials. A big squad can be very lucrative to a town’s economy, hotels restaurants, transport, etc ahead of the Games before that Team moves into the Olympic Village.
    2 points
  11. Seems like that will be the cauldron. They're keeping Rio's theme of small cauldrons that don't damage the environment. Good on them. I also like the idea being Mount Fuji with the sun rising being the cauldron. Now this is why I'm excited!
    2 points
  12. A second Olympic Games in my lifetime. Bring on Brisbane 2032.
    2 points
  13. You know, we keep hearing about how great Japan is and that they're a good country to be put into this position because they can handle it, but look at the reality? Japan is struggling with the virus. Their population dislikes and distrusts country leadership. So maybe some of this praise for Japan is a little misplaced. Time will tell how this all went. It'll all be based on the COVID numbers in the month or so following the Olympics. If there's an uptick in cases and COVID deaths, the Olympics will undoubtedly get blamed. So let's hope that Japan does in fact know what they're doing, because between the Tokyo organizers and the IOC, I'm less than convinced their safety protocols are as good as they need to be
    2 points
  14. https://www.instagram.com/p/CP0jL6lgC0J/ I found an aerial picture of the Tokyo National Stadium. They seem to be getting ready for the Opening Ceremony stage. It looks very much like the stage floor of leaked rejected idea of the Opening Ceremony.
    2 points
  15. I doubt anyone feels that but you. Calls are not growing. They're just making headlines this week because Pelosi's name entered the conversation. A total boycott is probably no more likely or less likely to happen now than it was a week ago
    2 points
  16. i think this is supposed to be a "build it and they will come" scenario. what i mean by that is that is if it takes 45 mins to get from Towoomba to the CBD suddenly it's not an isolated city 100+ KM out of the CBD, it's a viable alternative to living in Logan or Ipswich, which will have people seeing them as viable places to live, increasing land value and desirability. on another topic with all the meetings between the IOC (such as the recent 3 day one) and the comments from Coates i think we can be pretty sure (failing something major) that the IOC sesson in July will vote for the 2032 games
    2 points
  17. They could have 10 million signatures and it probably wouldn't matter. Follow the money. If the sponsors and other companies funding the Olympics are still invested, the Olympics will go ahead regardless of what individuals want. There would have to a major change in the course of the pandemic for the Olympics to get cancelled
    2 points
  18. The issue isn't about athletes going rogue. Again, Japanese citizens aren't concerned that the Olympics will turn into a super-spreader event. They're concerned their government is putting the welfare of the Olympics and olympians ahead of them. At this point, the folks in Japan don't want to hear what outsiders think and how outsiders would advise them. They want assurances that hosting the Olympics will not hamper the country's effort to fight and address the pandemic. And I'm starting to understand more and more why that's a concern for them.
    2 points
  19. Good morning comrades, I’ve taken the feedback onboard and now post mostly brief posts with links to open the full article. This hopefully had opened up more space and oxygen to discuss opinions and developments more freely. Some articles are behind paywalls so will post one or 2 paragraphs to capture the gist of the story. Recent exceptions to this was this week’s major announcement around the demolition and rebuild of the Gabba as the Olympic Stadium including athletics.
    2 points
  20. i believe i read somewhere (and i can not find it now) that the bid docs have been submitted to the IOC. now we wait for July
    2 points
  21. Very disapointing, taking in consideration Italy has one of the best logos ever for a winter Games: Torino 2006. Definitely, number "6" is for Italian Winter Games.
    2 points
  22. Vancouver & SLC are actually in different times zones, but still, they’re only an hour apart from each other. Albertville ‘92 & Lillehammer ‘94 were in the same time zone. So two consecutive NA Winter Olympics should be no issue, if need be. But be careful of suggesting another double-award around here, or you could be labeled of having a “double fetish”.
    2 points
  23. This is a proposal of how the cauldron could be lit... a very original proposal based on a "mass cauldron lighting" http://pequenaperomatona.com/en/news-idea-for-the-olympic-flame-lighting-tokyo-2020/
    2 points
  24. I'm wondering if, had let's say...Jakarta...got the nod so early on by the IOC based on the "Agenda 2020 + New Norm", you would have defended all those changes all so vigorously as well or if you had posted endless rants as to why the IOC played unfairly.
    2 points
  25. So the Japanese organizers should pull the plug because someone else did a **** job of managing their event? Sports leagues and organizations have managed to do this without dozens of cases. Yes, it's a near impossible task to do for an event on the scale of the Olympics, but can we please stop over-reacting as if the only solution is to cancel the Olympics?
    2 points
  26. I expect the Sapporo bid to be scrapped following the Tokyo games. So much money has been spent and with these mega sized venues probably with only a handful of spectators, the Tokyo Olympics are headed for a major financial loss. Given that, I don't expect Japan to have much of an appetitie for spending more money on an Olympic bid so soon. I'd go as far to say the financial ramifications from Tokyo will keep Japan out of Olympic bidding for at least a decade if not more. If the IOC isn't serious about getting Salt Lake City on the phone, they need to be.
    2 points
  27. Coates plans to retire from AOC, wants to oversee Brisbane Games By Aaron Patrick on Mar 19, 2021 – 3.43pm The IOC has selected Brisbane as the preferred candidate for the 2032 Games, and could ratify the decision at a meeting of all 103 members just before the opening of the Tokyo Olympic Games in July. Mr Coates’ position in the international movement would automatically make him a board member of the Brisbane Games organising committee until 2024. After that, it would probably be up to the Queensland government to decide if the veteran sports administrator would remain on the committee, which might be known as BOCOG. “It’s up to them if they want to find a place for me after that,” he told AFR Weekend. “I think I have plenty to offer, or if along the way I didn’t think I had anything to offer I’d pull the plug at the appropriate time.” Mr Coates declined to name his preferred successor at the Australian Olympic Committee, but praised several board members, including Australian Sailing president Matt Allen, Athletics Australia president Mark Arbib, Volleyball Australia president Craig Carracher, Winter Olympic team chef de mission Ian Chesterman, Gymnastics Australia chief executive Kitty Chiller, Olympic fencer Evelyn Halls and Diving Australia chair Michael Murphy.
    2 points
  28. Sorry George_D, I should have clarified. At Athens 2004, there was 2 outside permanent pools, one 50m for the swimming competition and one permanent 25m pool in an area between the swimming pool and the next building, which was used for warm-up laps by swimmers and also some of the water polo preliminary rounds. There was in fact a third outside permanent pool which was the old diving pool but this was not used at Athens 2004 and was instead covered over to create extra space for swimming medal presentations and a temporary grandstand. As you said, there was also the permanent indoor pool as well used for diving and water polo. Great memories of those ‘Welcome Home Olympic Games’.
    2 points
  29. Please note: "Debate" in the IOC nowadays means that Bach writes a script, sends it to the members and let them act it out with various degrees of talent.
    2 points
  30. I'm not upset. I just point out that a) there's no transparency in the process despite the IOC pretending to learn from its past corruption and b) any neutral observer or governance expert would agree that Coates had way too many roles in all of this. And for the record: The German bid was embarassing and it's probably fine to give Brisbane the Olympics. But this could have been achieved through a clear and transparent process as well, though apparently the IOC didn't trust its own members to take the right decision and made a fait accompli.
    2 points
  31. Thank goodness, these decisions are not made based on blogging comments on whatever media platform. Three indicators show clearly that a majority of Queenslanders support the Olympics coming to the state. One of those polls was the recent Queensland State Election won in a landslide by this Olympics Government. The second was The Courier Mail’s recent opinion poll which found that 60% of Queenslanders support the Olympics coming to the state. A third indicator is that the infamous petition by Pauline Hanson’s party to cancel the Bid was signed by a paltry 5,003 from a state population of 5.174 million Queenslanders. The IOC has taken note of the majority support, actually specifically mentioned it in their Assessment Report ahead of the recent announcement and is now on the cusp of voting to award the 2032 Games to Queenland.
    2 points
  32. Wait, Brisbane is going to host 2032 games? Sorry i've been disconnected from everything. I mean, remember when there were actual bid races because people actually wanted to host the games? Anyway congratulations to Australia i guess
    2 points
  33. i was driving around Brisbane last night and you could not keep the smile off my face. I was thinking about potential pre-Olympics training camp venues just in the Brisbane area and two came to mind. 1 - The university of Queensland (8.5 Km from the CBD by road) Sports: Rugby, Athletics, field sports, Swimming, Fencing, Hockey, Squash, Volleyball and Weightlifting UQ is Queenslands oldest university and has facilities for a far number of sports - a 50m swimming pool, purpose built hockey and rugby fields and a proper athletics track with some field sport (javelin, discus, shot put, long and high jump). it is also relatively isolated at the riverside suburb of St Lucia, but with excellent transport links to other areas (UQ is the second biggest destination for public transport outside Brisbane city, with multiple bus and fast ferry links to the CBD and by the time the games are here the Brisbane metro should be up and running) The only downside is accommodation, as whilst there are student colleges this is likely to be full with students at the time, but this would be where i pick if i was organizing a national teams pre-games camp 2 - Griffith Uni / QEII Stadium Sports: Rugby, Athletics, field sports (14 Km to CBD by road) I've put these two venues together as QEII is used by Griffith uni for things like exams (and i think it is managed by them too) as well as being right next to each other. This is dependent on what Brisbane do for a new stadium (if they do indeed build one or refurbish or refurbish QEII) QEII was the stadium used in the Brisbane commonwealth games and is still in decent shape. Once again accommodation is an issue but it is more isolated than UQ and this could be an advantage In terms of live sites, with big screens and possibly entertainment, i would have the following sites; 1 - King George Square. Brisbane's City Square and a natural gathering place for the people of Brisbane. often used as a site of protest and gatherings such as Christmas markets, this is almost a definite live site 2 - Southbank. The site of Expo 88 this is a beautiful site that is open for the people of Brisbane. I have seen reports this will be the site of the archery, and there are some spots where a big screen can be set up and poeple can gather. 3 - Queens Wharf sky deck - as part of the multibillion doller development of a high end shopping mall, casino and hotels the is also a large number of public spaces planned including an open air cinema 4 - Cavill Ave, Surfers Paradise. another open air mall. This site could be on the beach at the end of Cavill ave which is used for Schoolies (a big celebration when students finish high school) or the mall itself
    2 points
  34. Nikki Haley talking about “upholding America’s guiding principles” on Faux News is absolutely hysterical! Considering that’s not what they were doing at all when they were peddling the big, fat lie for weeks, which put on own Republic’s democracy at great risk. So please Nikki, just spare us the hypocritical hyperbole about Nazi Germany & “evil China” (when people like you are also part of the problem), & which is only meant for your own selfish, political self interests.
    2 points
  35. theres already a ton of infrastructure going in anyway - Cross River Rail, Brisbane Metro, Queens Wharf for starters. This is stuff we already need and was being done. The good thing about my city hosting the games is that we will have a hard deadline to get things done and will hopefully stop the bunfights between city, state and federal governments
    2 points
  36. https://stillmedab.olympic.org/media/Document%20Library/OlympicOrg/News/2021/02/IOC-Feasibility-Assessment-Brisbane.pdf Venues BRISBANE Brisbane Olympic Stadium- 50,000 (Athletics, Track and Field) NEW Brisbane Arena- 15,000 (Swimming, Water Polo) NEW Brisbane Aquatics Centre- 4,500 (Diving, Artistic Swimming, Water Polo) Existing- Upgrade Southbank Cultural Forecourt- 4,000 (Archery) Temporary Brisbane Indoor Sports Centre- 15,000 (Basketball) New Southbank Piazzy 4,500 (3X3 Basketball) Existing Anna Meares Velodrome- 5,000 (Track, BMX Cycling) Existing Victoria Park- 5,000/25,000 (BMX Freestyle, Cross Country Equestrian) Temporary Brisbane Showgrounds- 15,000 (Equestrian) Existing Suncorp Stadium- 52,000 (Football Finals/Rugby Sevens) Existing Chandler Indoor Sports Complex- 10,000 (Gymnastics) New Ballymore Stadium- 5,000 (Hockey) Existing with permanent works Brisbane International Shooting Centre- 2,000 (Shooting) Existing Brisbane Convention & Exhibition Centre- 6,000 (Table Tennis, Fencing, Taekwondo, Badminton) Existing Nissan Arena- 6,000 (Boxing) Existing Redland Whitewater Centre- 8,000 (Canoe) New Brisbane Entertainment Centre- 11,000 (Handball) Existing Ipswich Stadium- 20,000 (Modern Pentathlon/Football) Existing Larapinta Flatwater Centre- 14,000 (Rowing/Canoe) New Royal Queensland Yacht Squadron- 10,000 (Sailing) New Queensland Tennis Centre- 6,000 (Tennis) Existing GOLD COAST Broadbeach Park Stadium- 12,000 (Beach Volleyball) Temporary Royal Pines Resort- 15,000 (Golf) Existing Gold Coast Sports and Leisure Centre- 7,500 (Judo/Wrestling) Existing Broadwater Parklands- 5,000 (Triathlon/Marathon) Temporary Coomera Indoor Sports Centre- 11,000 (Volleyball) Existing Gold Coast Convention and Exhibition Centre- 6,000 (Volleyball/Weightlifting) Existing Robina Stadium- 27,400 (Football) Existing SUNSHINE COAST/WHITSUNDAY ISLANDS Sunshine Coast Convention and Entertainment Centre- 6,000 (Basketball) Existing Alexandrea Headland- 5,000 (Road Marathon, Race Walking, Kiteboarding Sailing) Temporary Sunshine Coast Mountain Bike Park- 10,000 (Mountain Bike) Existing Sunshine Coast Stadium- 20,000 (Football) Existing Whitesunday Islands- 2,000 (Keelboat Sailing) Existing OTHER Toowoomba Sports Ground- 20,000 (Football) Existing) North Queensland Stadium 25,000 (Football) Existing) Barlow Park- 20,000 (Football) Existing Sydney Football Stadium- 42,500 (Football) Existing Melbourne Rectangular Stadium- 30,000 (Football) Existing In terms of the sport that the host nation selects, I think it will be between Cricket and Netball. Thoughts?
    2 points
  37. When the pandemic first hit last year, the initial response was "we are committed to holding the Games on schedule and we have not considered alternatives." A week later, they announced a postponement. This time, they're fully committed to making it happen. They've said another postponement is not an option (this time I believe them) so they have no choice but to push forward given whatever restrictions they feel will be necessary. And like Stefan said, a new leader coming in just a few months before the games, what else should they say? You're right, we have no idea what the trajectory of the pandemic will be, but yes, they'll do whatever they can to ensure the Olympics happen this summer. There's no alternative to that approach at this point
    2 points
  38. My sentiments exactly FINALLY!!!!
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  39. ...I don't think Athletes, volunteers or sports journalist are essential to anything.
    2 points
  40. They said they didn't have a Plan B last time. Then came up with a Plan B very quickly. No idea what they would do if they decide they can't hold the Games this summer. But if that decision has to be made, it won't be made for at least until the spring. There was no way they could have gone ahead with the Olympics last year. But now, sports teams and leagues are managing to operate. Obviously the Olympics is an event like nothing else, but to say it's not possible.. way too early for that kind of declaration. You say they should cut their losses, but this isn't the best example of a sunk cost fallacy. Cancelling now means all the money they have spent, including this extra year due to the postponement went for nothing. They only get to reap the rewards when the event goes on. Might not be so helpful to the Japanese government if they have to hold the event without spectators, but the IOC and all the sports federations would be in bad shape if they didn't get their influx of cash because the Olympics didn't go on. That Japan is pushing forward isn't simply to justify what they've spent, but to see a return on their investment which right now they don't really have.
    2 points
  41. Goodbye and good riddance you fascist orange shitbag
    2 points
  42. I made this video about the 1936 US Olympic Basketball Team that was comprised of Universal Studios employees. It was the first Olympics that ever included basketball, and the US took home the gold! It's a little-known story, but has so many interesting facets across the board. It was relatively controversial just for the team to attend. I hope you enjoy the video!
    2 points
  43. My goodness, man.. get off Pavlovian streak of yours when you get excited anytime you see the slightest hint of what could look like a boycott. You do realize that Trump is about to no longer be president, right? Short of one of the biggest political coups ever, Joe Biden is about to be POTUS. He doesn't need to take a stand on China to help get elected. The vote already happened. And what is a "pro boycott order" anyway? Do you think with all that's going on right now that either Trump (likely not going to be the president in 2022) or Biden is thinking about the Olympics at this point? Just because you're making all these posts to fill 9 pages worth of a thread does not mean they're pushing to make these decisions now. You need to get it in your head that just because this is a hot topic for you now doesn't mean government officials are going to make decisions *now* for an event that is still 15 months away and also happens to have another Olympics in front of it.
    2 points
  44. Yeah, the look of the games was released last May, but I don't blame anyone for not noticing due to the current status of the Pandemic. Anyway. Beijing Winter Olympics color system and core graphics release dynamic graphics for the first time in Olympic history https://www.tellerreport.com/sports/2020-05-08-beijing-winter-olympics-color-system-and-core-graphics-release-dynamic-graphics-for-the-first-time-in-olympic-history.rJDKIIzc8.html So, yeah, much like the LA'28 logo, they're going for the Dynamic graphics. Which means we're going to have a Look of the Games in motion for the venues. The following link has a video where you can see how the animation works. https://www.weibo.com/6349231148/J0XCopLxB?type=comment More examples of the brand Usage of the brand in merchandise:
    2 points
  45. Date:Oct 30, 2020 News source:The Japan Times Link to this article:https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2020/10/30/olympics/japanese-language-olympic-parade/
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  46. Was nice to be in the stadium to hear it....Sydney 2000 was the highlight of my life, I carried the flame into Byron Bay, witnessed the opening and closing and every athletic session, and all up I saw 70 gold medals being won! My best fiend from Uni even hosted the 1 hour pre opening activities in the stadium. And when I was a little kid a few miles from the stadium I used to stage my own Olympic Games in the backyard1
    2 points
  47. I love the concept, but I do not like the execution. Can the bold font (L, 2 and 8) at least be the same font since the As change? It seems like the L and the 8 are the same or similar, but the 2 is kind of a sports jersey kind of font. Is this the offical logo or some kind of promo to keep people excited since it's so far away--I hope? I'm not a fan of the A that's currently their icon on social media (some kind of Old English, brush font). Reminds me of the Oakland As.
    2 points
  48. What’s that? Suicide for fear of death? Never in a million years would athletes en masse go for that idea.
    2 points
  49. The French have this proclivity to do strange things with their ceremonies. And they like to do outdoor/"theatre in the streets." 1. weird Albertville 1992 ceremonies 2. Med Games 1993 - held lakeside, or by a beach in Languedoc-Rosillon. (There's a partial clip of that on UTube.) 3. this FIFA 1998 World Cup 4. Jeux de la Francophonie 2013 in Nice when the OC was held at the Place Messina (the public square) in Nice. I hope they don't f*ck up 2024 with their weirdness. Oh, well, Cirque du Soleil just filed for bankruptcy becuz all their shows in Vegas closed -- and of course NO TOURING shows either.
    2 points
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