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  1. 3 points
    It's a shame that there're basically no entries this year. Here are the 3 logo I managed to come up with (the links are for the logos on white background) http://www.up2me.co.il/imgs/72996411.png http://www.up2me.co.il/imgs/592757.png http://www.up2me.co.il/imgs/83887732.png
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  3. 2 points
    It's just been confirmed.. We'll do in fact have 2 different games in 2 different Birmingham in 2022.. https://theworldgames2021.com/new-dates-twg-birmingham-to-take-place-july-7-17-2022/
  4. 2 points
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/organizers-finalize-new-dates-for-tokyo-olympics-beginning-in-july-2021/ar-BB11Uz8s?ocid=spartanntp Dates finalized for Tokyo Olympics: July 23rd - August 8th 2021
  5. 2 points
    My sympathies are with the people suffering from the virus. Jesus.
  6. 2 points
    Ahhh baron, I do miss telling you how dead wrong you are. So thank you for this opportunity. You are wrong. These are extremely unprecedented times. It is very possible - and I would argue likely - that we could have a Summer Olympics in 2021. The IOC has said cancellation is NOT an option. Postponement is. NBC will not have a major say in this and if they did, they would probably advocate to move it to next Summer, not to push it back by a month. And don't forget there's also the matter of the Paralympics as well
  7. 2 points
    Should the IOC and TOCOG determine that TOKYO 2020 will proceed as planned there will likely be unprecedented changes to venues, security, travel protocols, medical preparedness, etc.. A more informational “look of games” may be necessary to identify TOKYO 2020. A comprehensive plan may include a main logo that is more connected to these games parameters. I would like to submit a logo design to TOCOG for consideration. This design was originally created for Harbin, China in a past GB logo contest and was rejected by the GB community and thus it is available now. I can be available (remotely) to discuss terms of use with TOCOG. In the unfortunate event that Tokyo 2020 is indeed cancelled I leave open the option to transfer discussions to BOCWOG for use at Beijing 2022.
  8. 2 points
    I think an excessive use of exclamation marks is a better sign of hysteria than making decisions based on scientific advice.
  9. 2 points
    Are you OK with actually turning up now then? Ah, yes, here you are: Yes, Germany's most famous band have joined us as this is an announcement ceremony! And to conduct it, we have fahrt, fahrt, fahrted down the Autobahn to our host city, Frankenstein's hometown, DARMSTADT! We are inside whatever that tower is to crown our 13th Winter Olympic logo comp champion, & here in the heart of Germany, who could be better to do it than a man with years of experience in opening envelopes, the IOC President (& Olympic champion in fencing, 1976) himself - Thomas Bach! For once, he's not appearing via videolink - so over to you, Tommy: Bach: Danke schon - Guten abend aus alles. It is ein great honour to be here & see the athletes of [insert games here] gathered so peacefully in [insert city here]. I vish to give mein thanks to President Pu...I mean Chancellor Merkel for her support, & to Nik...I mean ze global sporting family for participating in zis great event. Ze Olympic Movement is...you know what, I do not need to do all zis. Let's get to ze point: Ze International Olympic Committee has ze honour of announcing that the 13th Gamesbids Winter Olympic Logo Competition is awarded to ze city of... PAUL! Yoshi: Danke Mr President. Your flight to Brisbane leaves soon, & Frankfurt Airport is next door. There we have it, proof that being late is not necessarily a bar on winning, as the logo comp colossus that is @paul takes title number 9! Apologies for the lack of a picture with Bach & the logo, that's due to the technical issues we've been having. Although I never heard anyone complaining that they didn't see Thomas Bach enough The result was clear after round 1, the scores were: A: 2 B: 1 C: 0 D: 4. That is Part 1 done, thank you to everyone who got involved, I know it wasn't a vintage comp with so little action on the board, but at least we had enough logos for multiple rounds. Theoretically, anyway. Thank you to everyone who submitted a logo, & also to all 7 voters. I was worried we might only get 3. Particular thanks to @Sir Rols for the admin help, poll starting, & even vote-getting thanks to his thread about old Tommy. Finally thanks to @paul for enabling us to survive Rols' Mac tragedy, & congrats once again on his latest win. And that's winter done! We will gather again tomorrow on a very special train to begin & maybe end our search for the summer champion. Until then, it's bier und bratwurst (yum) all round! AUF WIEDERSEHN!
  10. 2 points
    QSAC Is too old for such a thing. They proposed to expand it to 90,000 for the 1992 bid, but how that was ever going to achieved was questionable (though I'm sure the bid team would have made a scale model on how they were going to achieve this). I'd expect a new stadium, somewhere near public transport and easy accessibility. It can be downsized post Olympics if need be, provided that no one wants to become a tenant. That's the Achilles heel of the bid. The main stadium is going to take a huge chunk of the budget, even if you get privatize the construction of the Athletes' Village and Media Village.
  11. 2 points
    BOO! Getting close to midnight... With thanks (& apologies) to the holographic form of the late, great King of Pop/inventor of Halloween, Michael Jackson, it's time to say...WELCOME TO THE 13TH (wooooo) ANNUAL GAMESBIDS OLYMPIC LOGO COMPETITION! Before beginning, it is customary to acknowledge my fellow Nintendo legend @thatsnotmypuppy, the inventor, & my fellow womb...wait, no @Sir Rols who kept it going, & is again the general fixer-of-issues this time. Last year saw a decent turnout for a competition that took us around the world from Mexico to Mumbai, & once again in 2019, it is my/our pleasure to give the board permission to play Christmas songs all day. This competition is a little unusual, not because of the format (it's the same as last year) but because we have a theme that links the 4 cities. Since the days of Christ, 13 has been considered by many an unlucky/spooky number, so for this 13th competition, all 4 cities have that spooky touch. No need to make your logos spooky though! Let's get haunted... WINTER 2030 CITY ONE: DARMSTADT, GERMANY Located in the vicinity of Frankfurt, Darmstadt may not rank among the most famed German cities, but it's a very fitting place for a spooky excursion. High in the hills overlooking the city, you'll find Frankenstein Castle, said to have inspired the novel &, of course, the monster... A Winter Olympics here would be more surprising than seeing a bolt-necked monster roaming the streets, but how would you brand one? WINTER 2030 CITY TWO: BUCHAREST, ROMANIA Romania might strike as more of a summer sport nation, but they have begun to host & bid for winter events too. Plus anything goes in the logo comp - & you really can't do spooky without Romania. Its uniquely unfortunate history gives it TWO of the most terrifying people to rule in Europe, Vlad the Impaler & Nicolae Ceaucescu. And that's before you start on the whole vampire thing. How would you brand a rather different Winter Games? SUMMER 2032 CITY ONE: NEW ORLEANS, USA How could we not? New Orleans might not be one of the cities often talked about when Uncle Sam wants the Olympic rings again, but as the city of voodoo & jazz funerals, it's a true no-brainer for this one. Throw in all its other cultural specialities & it's frankly amazing it's never been here before. No shortage of possibilities, so how would you brand the Games in the Big Easy? SUMMER 2032 CITY 2: CAIRO, EGYPT (Yes, I know they're not technically in Cairo). We've only had one African city in 12 comps, so it's well past time for another visit. And as AFAIK, we've never had an Arab world city either, where better than the largest city of the continent? There's no shortage of design inspiration here, & from the film The Mummy to the curse of Tutankhamun, there's no shortage of spooks either. How would you brand the Games in the Middle East AND Africa? THE RULES/FORMAT We are, as ever, after logos that encompass the overall feel of the city and local influences that can be tied into a design concept. How can any of these cities articulate graphically what they could bring to future Olympics hosting? What flavour will they bring to the games? Will it inspire any of these to actually bid for the damn thing? The logos should be presented as full colour designs on white background. If you like, however, they can also be presented in black and white or utilised in forms like street banners, t-shirts, apps, vehicles, pins etc. For voting purposes, the main (colour) logo will be used on the polls, & extra stuff is not obligatory, but any extra material you produce may help you “sell” your design better to the wider GamesBids voting membership. Spookiness is not obligatory (the cities are the theme, it's a normal comp) but if you wanna go big on the whole 13 thing, nobody will stop you.  These logos are for the cities as they HOST the games. So you CAN use the rings, and don't need to include the words “Candidate City, Olympic Games 2030/32” or whatever the IOC want this week. Please post your preliminary submissions on this thread. If you want to hold anything back to be presented as a “surprise” when voting starts you can contact me or Rols via PM and I'll tell you where you can send the extra material. However, it would be nice to see as many on-thread submissions as possible for people to chew over in-thread, & to try & get the old buzz back. You can submit logos for any of the cities, & anything up to all 4 of them. However, you cannot enter more than one logo for the same city (see below). So entering one logo for each of Darmstadt, New Orleans & Cairo is fine, but two logos for New Orleans, say, is not fine. You are able, encouraged even, to enter for multiple cities. Feel free to post as many logo designs as you like, & to ask for feedback from our famously discerning electorate. If you really can't decide between your own designs for a city, feel free to start a poll (or to ask for one to be started). When the time comes for voting, however, you will be asked to settle on a maximum of ONLY ONE official logo per city as your official entry. The format depends on the numbers. Most likely, it will be the traditional exhausting exhaustive ballot preferred by the IOC, but if numbers fit & opinion ok, we may have the World Cup-style tournament system. Whatever happens, the winter & summer 'halves' will be entirely separate, there will be two winners in the Olympic comp tradition. The competition is open to all members of GamesBids, or to any new legitimate members who join before the end of the submission period. I, with consultation, will rule on the legitimacy of new members. As you would expect, I will rule on any disputes - always aiming to be as fair as possible in the process. As always, just remember, this is all meant to be fun. Olympic spirit, remember?. Hopefully this will spark up some action on the board. I'll be dipping in, keeping a close eye on things, but otherwise will try and keep my green yoshi-paws off until the polling stages. The deadline for submissions is 1pm London time (that is, midnight in Sydney, as per tradition) on NEW YEAR'S EVE, 31 DECEMBER 2019. Thus, GB will begin the new decade & Olympic year 2020 with the voting. And this is just to alert @Rob. to the existence of the new comp in the hope that he'll do his traditional bit of putting up links to various free design programs etc for the benefit of those who want to take part but may not have the facility at the moment. All that is left to say is thank you Rols once again, and to all participants for having the guts to put your logos up for the annual GamesBids dissection, & may the best logos win. There are too many languages involved to do this properly, so I'll just say GOOD LUCK! 
  12. 2 points
    So it’s official: Munich is going to host 2022. Confirmed sports: athletics (Olympiastadion), golf (venue tbc), gymnastics (in new arena in Olympiapark), cycling (track in Olympiahalle as velodrome was torn down some years ago, rest Olympiapark/city), rowing (1972 regatta course), triathlon (Olympiapark). A seventh sport will be added, maybe swimming, but they’re still negotiating. Dates: 11-22 August
  13. 2 points
    Finally we got a clear pic from the inside. Pretty much ready I say.
  14. 2 points
    Really liking the dark mode version of the logo on the website, will be very interesting to see what path they will take when it comes to the look. Definitely a winner with producing a quality Worldmark as well which should work well with the branding. Reasonably pleased with this one.
  15. 2 points
    The IOC, for all its faults, at least didn't sold itself to Qatar and killed off earlier their previous bids to the Olympics.
  16. 2 points
    A bit of a head scratcher but if Doha is serious about this, then the sheikhs may have finally realized an Olympics isn't going to happen and the best they can hope for is the Asian Games (it would be their second go around as the host). As for the IAAF World Championships, it's a disaster. Crowds are sparse and there are serious concerns about the marathon in the humidity. Of course Qatar is blaming everything on the Saudi-led blockade as they do for everything that doesn't go there way these days.
  17. 2 points
    New pictures released today by japanese newspapers. We have clearer shots of the running track. The stadium is officially 98% completed now.
  18. 2 points
    The entire Olympic Village would end up in a Jakarta jail by the end of the games if this went ahead: https://www.sbs.com.au/news/anger-as-indonesia-moves-to-criminalise-sex-outside-marriage
  19. 2 points
    I've often said going to the Olympics is unlike other trips. Usually, you plan out a trip, then decide if you want to go or not. With the Olympics, you decide "I want to go," then fill in whatever details you can get. Are you wiling to take that leap of faith. One thing people might not realize is how much of the "Olympic Spirit" does not involve going to events. As much as I love going to events, they can be a real pain. Lots of logistical headaches, lots of security to deal with, lots of waiting around. Many times is better to watch an event as a bar or "live site" than at the event itself. And, yes, watching in a bar in the host city is different that watching at home. Of course, you do want to go to some events. Of the events you list, Opening Ceremony tickets are very hard to come by. You might get them, but certainly don't count on it. Basketball prelims are usually available at some point, the gold medal match (mens) can be hard. 3x3 basketball tickets keep popping up, so I suspect that will be easier. Hockey is one of the easiest tickets to get. Football is the only sport where I can guarantee you'll be able to get tickets... though no guarantees on the gold medal match. Swimming and Women's gymnastics are some of the tougher tickets to get (and some of the sports that are much better on TV than in person). Beach Volleyball and Men's Handball are usually available. As far as planning, the first thing I always focus on in whether to target the first week or the second. That way I can book tickets and travel plans independently. Think about which events you most want to try for, and then look at the schedule to see when they are held. Lots of accommodations will have minimum stays, required deposits with no refunds. Always nice if you can book someplace that will be refundable, but don't count on it. As I said, you basically need to commit and just go for it. Mainstream hotels will either be completely book, or outrageously expensive. If you want to stay in one of those, either pay the $$$ or wait until the last month or so when they will inevitably free up rooms. The freeing of rooms happens every olympics, but I've never had the guts to wait. I always target non-traditional housing - hostels, dorms, airbnb, etc. Tokyo offers up another option in "businessman" hotels. Finally, there is always the operation of booking something out of town and commuting in. Tokyo has incredible train options for that. Plane tickets is usually the easiest thing to book. Mainstream airlines open up about 330 days ahead of time. Unlike hotels, they don't jack prices sky-high. Just don't count on a deal. Best of luck.
  20. 2 points
    Simple but effective. I like the circle patterns around the logo, which I suppose are a reference to the sun and the whole Land of the Rising sun motif. No one has posted the medals yet with their ribbons and case though, so there you go. https://worldarchery.org/news/172956/tokyo-2020-unveils-olympic-medal-design-celebrate-start-one-year-countdown Japanese ash wood cases, dyed with the same colour as the Olympic emblem, will accompany each medal. Every case will be unique. A closeup of the medals, you can see the relief pattern much better here. The medals resemble rough stones that have been polished and now shine, with light and brilliance as overall themes. They reflect the concept that in order to succeed, athletes have to strive and sacrifice on a daily basis. More than 400 professional designers and students submitted proposals in an open competition. Junichi Kawanishi is responsible for the winning design. “I never dreamed that the design I submitted only as a memorial to this lifetime event would be actually selected,” he said. “With their shining rings, I hope the medals will be seen as paying tribute to the athletes’ efforts, reflecting their glory and symbolising friendship.”
  21. 2 points
    Exactly. The Swedish bid was very weak, but the IOC needed to keep it alive and the SOK gamely went along with it. I don't think you can blame a NOC itself for being willing to bid if the IOC publicly states multiple times that they are willing to accept a low cost games with mostly private funding. And in the end I can't even really blame the IOC's members for not wanting a spread out games requiring ferry rides, night trains or whatever to get around, and for not wanting to wait in limbo to see if the Swedish public and government would pull the rug from under their feet like Denver did. I think the only fair criticism is to say the IOC shouldn't have been disingenuous with the Swedes, and should have been clearer about what they wanted rather than paying constant lip service to "Agenda 2020."
  22. 2 points
    The odd thing is that the big winter IFs (FIS, IBSF, IBU) are run by northern Europeans who may want to see their home countries host someday. (This fact makes it even odder that the Swedes did not recruit one of them to help with the IOC politics; they paid more attention to their internal politics than the constituency that matters.) I also don't think the logistics are a dealbreaker; they just needed better answers (e.g. sleeper trains) than the ones they gave. In PyeongChang people rarely moved same day between the snow and ice clusters, and moving within the snow cluster was hard. Showing expected movement patterns and addressing concerns on things like hotel rooms would have gone a long way. Falling down technically was one of the ways they failed to reassure on risk. If you're going to go spread out at least show how that will work. Helsinki's failed 2006 bid (which proposed Lillehammer as the mountain cluster) had a transport plan involving flying between cluster--not sustainable, perhaps, but they had an answer. Calling yourself the most sustainable bid ever without acknowledging that many stakeholders will be flying was also a mistake; once again, talking mostly to themselves and about their own virtues rather than calling it what it is; Milan Cortina's transport plan is hours on coaches on mountain roads, but they admitted that at least. This all came down to hubris; the Swedes appeared to really think that Agenda 2020 / New Norm meant the IOC was desperate, not that Lausanne wanted its ego to be stroked. The Swedes did not want it badly enough to "do what it takes" politically. That is the issue with the lack of a story. The Brazilians sold themselves as a rising power that had never hosted, and look at where that got the IOC--a disorganised games in the middle of a political crisis. A sports power which has never hosted is not enough of a narrative, but the Swedes really appeared to believe it.
  23. 2 points
    It's quite simple - if the event is going to divert significant financial resources from more pressing public needs then it won't get spent and alternate forms of funding has to be found. This is the right policy for Scandinavia right now. Sweden does not have the budget to spend on big events like Japan, USA, China etc. They saw what Agenda 2020 was allowing and put together a solid plan that would spread the effort across the country and internationally. The IOC had an alternative that while not ideal was at least in the same country and had Governmental support. Sadly the IOC is not as brave as their exhaustive press releases indicate.
  24. 2 points
    She’s probably with AA ATM!
  25. 2 points
    It was Milan’s extravagant shopping that won the day! And boy, AA must be stewing in his own juices, cuz he got yet another one WRONG!
  26. 2 points
    So we really are seeing the end of the Olympic bidding process. Probably for the best in terms of the long-term health of the Movement, when you see the legacies of over-promising around the world. And if Coates is right (obviously there’s the caveat that he is Australian) there’s one thing for sure - Australia will be great hosts, they always are. I imagine this’ll mean Salt Lake 2030 will be confirmed at the same session if they get official quickly enough.
  27. 2 points
    ... and yet neither Melbourne, nor any other Australian city or region is making any moves toward a bid. So let go of Melbourne, they’re not bidding. End of story. I’m a Melbourne resident and I know Melbourne have not yet shown any interest in a bid for 2032 or any other games. We are now in the Agenda 2020 era. A 2032 Brisbane/SE QLD bid has been shown to be very feasible under Agenda 2020. In Australia, only Brisbane and South East Queensland are making any moves ahead of a possible bid.
  28. 1 point
    oh and just to add onto the above. if all levels of government are really are on board i would think Brisbane would almost be dead certs to get this now, given how we have managed covid and it looks like we are though the worst of it with minimal deaths and infection rates into the single digits a day now, where as places like India and indonesia are still struggling to contain the virus
  29. 1 point
    There’s maybe an argument at this point to say give Birmingham 2026 & cancel 2022. Would give the World Athletics Championships & their athletes the space they need, 2022 is a very cramped summer. Although obviously it’d be best of all if they can find a host for 2026 & keep Brum - I like the Commonwealth Games, it’s very sad to see them in so much trouble
  30. 1 point
    Yeah, cruise ships docked in Yokohama...maybe the Diamond or the Ruby Princess will be available?
  31. 1 point
    Yep, isn’t it ironic that the board is the most active I’ve seen in a good long time, and it’s all because of what ISN’T likely to happen. And I’d also hazard a guess the fact that many of us have a lot of time on our hands a bit lately has a bit to do with it. It’s disquieting times. The vast majority of us here are likely in various stages of social distancing, isolation or even lockdown by now. The provision of diversions is rapidly dwindling - beyond streaming services and the internet - and tedium may be a big problem we’re gonna face soon. In one way or the other we’re all in this together now and GamesBids may be one good avenue for us to actually be able to socialise over the coming months. I’ll admit I had a hand in putting Yoshi up to this. Yoshi’s always keen to keep the comp tradition going, and i just figured there may be a lot of us with a lot of time on our hands at the moment. This is an easy and socially safe way we can all pass some time in these unprecedented times and maybe even have some fun and ward off the blues. So come on everyone, lets see if we can rekindle some of the old GamesBids spirit. Got anything else better to do?
  32. 1 point
    Not feeling the US uniforms- except the all white podium suit...all seems a bit like red and white and blue vomit, in a huge array of patterns...US uniforms are usually neat, with a simple clear graphic design and striking...
  33. 1 point
    Good news of the bid, the opposition came from an "outsider" mostly known for her xenophobic and anti-Aboriginal campaigns.
  34. 1 point
    Not sure, though the old mosaics of Nomi no Sukune and Athena which were in the old stadium were preserved and also installed in the new one. Yesterday, the very first sport event in the new National Stadium was held, with the final of the Emperor Cup being held there.
  35. 1 point
    The dots are clearly either the logo or they’re gonna form what forms the logo. Why else would they need all teams in their destinations? I’m pleased they’re doing something big like this though, it wouldn’t be properly French if it wasn’t artsy & slightly odd (see 92/98 ceremonies) :p
  36. 1 point
    Those last 2 things aren't necessarily related. NBC seems to be looking good in terms of sales for Tokyo despite the fact they're slowing moving away from putting everything into primetime. So the length of the contract isn't necessarily tied to NBC's ability to generate revenue from primetime. The extension NBC got was a gift from the IOC. Basically a "thank you" for what probably was an over-pay on the 2014-2020 package. Tough to tell what the Olympics will be worth a decade from now. I don't think we can expect a contract of that length based on that reason. Especially if there's open bidding because at that point, I doubt anyone is looking for a package of 6 Olympics. 4 maybe, but that's likely the max. That all said.. don't think it necessarily has a bearing on the host selection. A little bit of certainty will be nice, but we're a ways off from when that will come into play.
  37. 1 point
    After all the destruction Nagano just faced with the typhoon, I'm not sure they are going to volunteer themselves to welcome the world. They have other things to worry about right now. I would've loved that though, to see all of Japan's former Olympic host cities working together to help Tokyo.
  38. 1 point
    This championship is a real scandal... sport managers have to duscius seruiosly this event and even, if it is necesary, to cancel some street race events.... We'll have a disaster if it is not stopped on time... I hope nothing of this to happen, but we are very close to do....
  39. 1 point
    This whole approach seems crazy to me. Brisbane and Queensland should be thinking about what works for them and then seeing how that could work for an Olympic bid rather than making the "best bid ever" and then trying to figure out the legacy afterwards. But maybe I don't understand the Australian point of view.
  40. 1 point
    Yes, this has long since been established. Likewise, I doubt Wallechinsky cares what you think or prefer. You and I were once a part of his audience and would pay for his work. Times changed and I moved on. You should do the same because for better or worse, those books aren't coming back and no amount of change to the IOC or the Olympics will make it happen.
  41. 1 point
    Found this rare ceremony, the opening ceremony of the 2003 IAAF World Championships in Athletics held in Paris.
  42. 1 point
    If the Castilians are envious and stubborn of the Catalans to get the Olympics first (Exclusive words of Ana Botella). Imagine now with the Basques Not gonna happen in eons
  43. 1 point
    New York City, if it really cared, could easily overshadow Montreal. Yankees and (maybe) Flushing Meadows aside, NYC is not a city that gains status from sports, as seen from the city's indifference to its 2012 bid. Not the point, though. I was not really trying to focus on Lillehammer but more trying to see a way that Sweden could bid. SOK clearly want to do this, and the Swedish main governing party is in favour (as is the main opposition party, the Moderates); it took them a while as the coalition partner (the Greens) were against during the 2018 campaign but came round in the end, The national political support could be there, though, which is the first hurdle. The host city - Stockholm is clearly lukewarm and has been for a while, so my idea was to think of what it would be if Gothenburg were to replace it. Either way the city has to be willing to swallow its pride and be willing to sign the contract at the outset or there is no point. North-south rail connections in Sweden tend to run via the east coast, along the Gulf of Bothnia (via Gävle) as shown in the map below: , wh A Gothenburg-Östersund-Åre night train connection could (just) work, but the travel times would be longer; same for a rail-ferry connection to Riga/Sigulda. Flying is an option, but that goes against the sustainability instincts of the Swedes (Greta Thunberg does not fly at all) so they would need to come up with a creative carbon offset plan on the OCOG budget if this is this is acknowledged. (Stockholm 2026 calling itself the 'most sustainable games ever' was a bit hypocritical in this respect; most Olympic Family would fly.) Falun is 5km north of Borlänge, in case anyone is wondering. Public support. I think if they have a workable, low risk plan they just need to sell it to the host city and to the wider nation. There's no substitute for this, and it was something they failed to do on this occasion. The weakest link in this chain (besides the obvious one of geography) is the city of Stockholm, which clearly is lukewarm and unwilling to sign. If Stockholm continues to be lukewarm then a Gothenburg (ice sports, with speed skating at Rudhallen and cross country maybe at Ulricehamn)-Falun (ski jumping/nordic combined)-Östersund (biathlon)-Åre (alpine/snowboard/freestyle)-Sigulda/Lillehammer (sliding) bid could work, would anyone be in favour of that concept? What would be simpler?
  44. 1 point
    It was more against the your point on more pressing public concerns which, if Sweden wanted to spend money on they could. What the IOC's reforms this week clearly spell out is that domestic political risks like this are the prospective host's problem. If Swedish elites want to bid then they need to win over their public to a bid before they approach Lausanne. Maybe. Ostersund's bids of that era (having looked at its 2002 bid book again) were as if it was competing against cities the size of Lillehammer; once larger cities started bidding for the winter games it did not stand a chance. That probably adds to the sour taste now, though -- they can't win though the ground shifts around them. Apart from the (major) lack of a sliding track perhaps Ostersund should aim for a youth Olympics, and maybe then the Swedes will see if they want the real thing. It's an idea (hence the phrase "something like"); as I say above the risks and logistics of this will primarily become the SOK's problem. The main advantage of this is nothing new besides the villages needs to be built, and the villages can be justified because of Sweden's housing shortage. More broadly, if only cities can bid now and if bids like Montreal-Lake Placid are going to happen (as the rules change this week explicitly allow for) then someone is going to have to cross this Rubicon. Why not Sweden?
  45. 1 point
    After today, something tells me that the Swedes won’t be back anytime soon. This last Swedish effort was tepid at best anyway (& very last minute, politically speaking), & it was obviously not enough, even for a winter sports country that’s never hosted the Winter Olympics before & who’s had several failed previous bids as well. None of that mattered to the IOC today, & I’m sure that the Swedes will remember that for quite a while yet. But of course, the SOK could still be glutton for punishment, so who knows.
  46. 1 point
    I think the Swedish government just let their Olympic/sporting community have a little fun in presenting and "backing" the bid so half-heartedly. It just didn't build the critical mass that the Italians were able to build (even to the point of pushing aside their last big-city Olympic host, Torino, just so Milano could finally add the nomenclature "Olympic City" to its resume). Rome finally allowed that opportunity since Milano had always been a frustrated Summer wannabee (and which slot CONI has always reserved for Rome).
  47. 1 point
    This all sounds like Stockholm deliberately and covertly sabotaged their own bid. In fact, most of the swedish people i've read online so far are literally throwing confetti and being glad that they weren't picked to host the games, also saying the whole Bid was made up of farces and lies only their own members believed. Reminder that, on the 2004 race, an extremist group went as far as to bomb the Goteborg and Stockholm stadiums in order to ruin their bid for the 2004 games, citing the same reasons (taxes increase, billions of dollars spending, more tourism, etc. )
  48. 1 point
    But you're assuming that volunteers in these situations you mention have to go back home to their distant point of origin. I don't think any responsible OCOG would allow or foster that. It would be highly irresponsible for them to do so. I am sure volunteers , for a well-planned Games, are encouraged to shack up/ find shared housing close by for their duties.
  49. 1 point
    Well, your “giving the middle finger” & “so much for the ‘New Norm’ “ comments certainly give that impression, though. Not to mention your “but as a matter some local politician’s pride & stubbornness”, which can be said of virtually any bid, really.
  50. 1 point
    LOL XD Guess what I found on Wikipedia https://gyazo.com/131565bd06a2dd73744064a55d5f8420
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