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  1. Malawi, Lesotho, Tuvalu, Bhutan, Suriname, Palau, Brunei, Bahrain, Laos, South Sudan
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  2. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say Beijing 2022 will be a complete disaster for China if they don't sort this out soon. The IOC won't be able to maintain careful neutrality and stave off protests from athletes over this. And I suspect many, many athletes will want to protest. 'Complex' issues around human rights/politics are one thing, but disappearing an athlete has the potential to cause the mother of all storms and be THE sole talking point of Beijing 2022. Every press conference, many podium ceremonies, interviews etc. And there'll be no way to talk round it, none of the IOC's usual guff about their presence having a positive long-term impact will wash. The IOC will have to side with the athletes and, I suspect, drop bans on protests. In short, if she's ok China needs to prove it. This will hugely escalate if not.
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  3. I DECLARE CHRISTMAS 2021...OPEN! Lowestoft's finest there, with one of the all-time great Christmas songs...here goes: Here we go again, because you can't keep a good idea down - at least not at the start - it's the symbol of December - THE 15TH ANNUAL GAMESBIDS OLYMPIC LOGO COMPETITION! Last year's comp didn't result in its demise, quite the opposite with both rounds being won by debutants - so let's hope that showed that the old thing still has some life in it yet. To help give it the best shot, we're sticking to last year's tried and tested, non-batshit mad format - two cities, one summer, one winter, one winner for each and one month (ish) to make them in. You probably want to know where they are, so here you go. They're good ones... SUMMER 2036: ISTANBUL, TURKEY Not Constantinople, and definitely not Byzantium, the city so good they named it three times needs no introduction. But this is one. One of the world's oldest, largest, and greatest cities with thousands of years of history, a symbol of the exotic and exciting (for Western Europe anyway), and a perennial Olympic hopeful, the only surprise is that 14 previous comps have somehow missed it! Let's be honest, even if it's not 2036, the Istanbul Olympics will surely happen eventually, so here's your chance to show how it should look. How will you design the games where Turkish Olympic dreams finally come true? WINTER 2034: GLASGOW, SCOTLAND, GREAT BRITAIN* Possibly even more amazing than 14 years of missing Istanbul is 14 years of completely ignoring the UK*. So on this St Andrew's Day, it's time to rectify that as the Winter comp heads to Scotland, the birthplace of curling. Glasgow, much in the news lately, is Scotland's largest city, even if internationally it's been a bit overshadowed by capital Edinburgh, but there's plenty of inspiration here on the Clyde for you in a city of great design history - even if actually hosting a Winter Olympics here might stretch Agenda 2020, it's still not implausible with some imagination, and that's what it's all about. How will you design the games where curling comes home? *Legal disclaimer - I'm using Scotland, British, Britain, UK etc interchangably based on context simply because that's the situation currently, and as anyone who says they know what'll happen by 2034 is either a) fibbing, or b) Doctor Who, it's easiest. This is not an endorsement of either side on Scottish independence. So there. THE RULES AND THINGS We are, as ever, after logos that encompass the overall feel of the city and local influences that can be tied into a design concept. How can any of these cities articulate graphically what they could bring to future Olympics hosting? What flavour will they bring to the games? Will it inspire the Turks to pull their fingers out and stop Putin's 2036 coronation? (Although Erdogan still...eh). The logos should be presented as full colour designs on white background. If you like, however, they can also be presented in black and white or utilised in forms like street banners, t-shirts, apps, vehicles, pins etc. For voting purposes, the main (colour) logo will be used on the polls, & extra stuff is not obligatory, but any extra material you produce may help you “sell” your design better to the wider GamesBids voting membership.  These logos are for the cities as they HOST the games. So you CAN use the rings, and don't need to include the words “Candidate City, Olympic Games 2036” or whatever the IOC want this week. Please post your preliminary submissions on this thread. If you want to hold anything back to be presented as a “surprise” when voting starts you can contact me or Rols via PM and I'll tell you where you can send the extra material. However, it would be nice to see as many on-thread submissions as possible for people to chew over in-thread, & to try & get the old buzz back. We can hope, right? You can submit logos for either or both cities. However, you cannot enter more than one logo for the same city (see below). So entering one logo for each is fine, but two logos for Glasgow, say, is not fine. You are able, encouraged even, to enter both 'sides' of the comp. Feel free to post as many logo designs as you like, & to ask for feedback from our famously discerning electorate. If you really can't decide between your own designs for a city, feel free to start a poll (or to ask for one to be started). When the time comes for voting, however, you will be asked to settle on a maximum of ONLY ONE official logo per city as your official entry. The format depends on the numbers. Most likely, it will be the traditional exhausting exhaustive ballot preferred by the IOC, but if numbers fit & opinion ok, we may have the World Cup-style tournament system. Whatever happens, the winter & summer 'halves' will be entirely separate, there will be two winners in the Olympic comp tradition. The competition is open to all members of GamesBids, or to any new legitimate members who join before the end of the submission period. I, with consultation, will rule on the legitimacy of new members. As you would expect, I will rule on any disputes - always aiming to be as fair as possible in the process. As always, just remember, this is all meant to be fun. Olympic spirit, remember?. Hopefully this will spark up some action on the board. I'll be dipping in, keeping a close eye on things, but otherwise will try and keep my green yoshi-paws off until the polling stages. The deadline for submissions is 1pm London time (that is, midnight in Sydney, as per tradition) on NEW YEAR'S EVE, 31 DECEMBER 2021. Thus, GB will begin the Olympic year (yup, another one) 2022 with the voting. Just one extra thing, there is something of a tradition of that being extended, but I don't know yet exactly how the numbers will add up - I want to schedule the comp so its last act, a final in the summer comp, if it goes fully through the rounds, would be on February 3, the eve of this year's first human rights-loving sporting spectacles /sarcasm. And this is just to alert @Rob. Rob to the existence of the new comp in the hope that he'll do his traditional bit of putting up links to various free design programs etc for the benefit of those who want to take part but may not have the facility at the moment, and to alert @GBModerator Rob to the fact the comp is back! All that is left to say is thank you Rols once again, and to all participants for having the guts to put your logos up for the annual GamesBids dissection, & may the best logos win - GOOD LUCK!
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  4. Let's not forget, that like Brisbane, SLC has been at this for YEARS now. At least the last five. And three years ago, the USOC officially named SLC (over Denver) as their next candidate for the Winter Olympic Games. And now that everything is done behind-the-scenes, who's to say how much of that list has already been completed. The IOC hasn't remained idle since Tokyo 2020ne. And this is the IOC afterall, & they tweak their own rules as they go along as long as they can see it benefits them in the end in some way. That said, though, if anything, I can at least see the IOC naming SLC as their "preferred candidate" right before Beijing 2022 (like they did with Brisbane, five months before they officially crowned them with 2032 at Tokyo 2020ne). At this point, I'd say it makes more sense to hold off Sapporo, or the likes of Ukraine, 'til at least 2034. Too much uncertainty, especially with Ukraine, to see that all clear up in only 18 months from now. Needless to say, but we've all also have tried to gauge the global map of what other 'dark angel' could mysteriously pop up now that would want to work with the IOC at this point in time. And right now, that map, especially for the winter Games, is looking very bleak.
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  5. The other great tradition of comp opening day is the mass @ - here we go: @paul @JDCLauron @Glacib @daveypodmore @Scotguy @Lord David @Rob. @thatsnotmypuppy @mr.bernham @woohooitsme83 @VIK @baron-pierreIV @JMarkSnow2012 @nzl @Utkarsh Verma @Athensfan @Citius Altius Fortius @Olympian1010 @TorchbearerSydney @Sir Rols @AustralianFan @JO2024 @Nacholympic @aismanggo @Anthony @Jon Will Chambers @Victorian @DannyelBrazil @ScoBit @Palette86 @cfm Jeremie @Fiorenzo @pcutone @Olympic Fan Darcy @Athens 2004 forever It's everyone in my previous mass @, plus everyone who posted or voted in last year's comps, even those who voted in August (!). Plus Danny as he expressed interest when he came back after Tokyo
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  6. Sapporo expected to announce cost cuts to land 2030 Olympics
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  8. ^^ I don't know what evidence you have for that. Birmingham was the British candidate for 1992 and Manchester for 1996 and 2000. Neither city came higher than third. Many of the 128 members of the International Olympic Committee (IOC), who will make the decision, have emphasised that only London would stand a chance in future. As one said when Manchester lost to Sydney: “We will know you’re serious when you come back with London.” I'm not making (or attempting to make) any judgement on Manchester's capability but the IOC repeatedly rejected UK cities that aren't London and bit our hand off as soon as London was offered upsetting repeat bidder and strong favourite Paris. 2020 was not a bid race conducted under the "new norm" rules, so I don't know why you'd think Manchester (in a world where London 2012 didn't happen) would have a chance against Tokyo. Whether a city like Manchester has a chance in future with the new rules is a more interesting question. But to suggest any UK city but London could've won in recent decades is fanciful.
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  10. Actually, the whole Peng story can develop into something super embarrassing for the (so far silent) IOC. WTA has given some strong statements already and don‘t seem willing to bow to Chinese efforts to keep this under the rug. Of course this will not lead to a „full boycott“, but it adds yet another topic to the list of issues we might get unwanted (by IOC and China) comments/protests by athletes about.
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  11. Ballroom Dance. (If ridiculous Paris 2024 can have "Breaking," why can't LA, the entertainment capital of the world, have Ballroom Dance?)
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  12. Im hoping to be eternally hopeful on this one because I really want to see it. Brain says no, heart says yes
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  13. Cake-decorating it is.
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  14. No rush. Covid is still messing things up. And the IOC is still we ahead of its standard 7-year lead. And with an ex-host city like SLC, they can even go six without skipping a beat. So I say that the IOC will hold off on naming SLC until the next full IOC sessions in either Baranquilla (mid-2022) or Mumbai (2023), hoping that Sapporo, Ukraine or some other dark angel can come through for 2030.
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  15. Thanks Tejas57, you’re a legend. A great find, thankyou, much appreciated. It’s interesting to note that the legislation before the house is the Brisbane Olympics and Paralympics Arrangements Bill 2021. Also noting the correct title of the organising committee’s name in the Bill which establishes the: “Brisbane Organising Committee for the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games (the corporation).” Further, it’s interesting to note for those interested that the main function of the corporation is to undertake and facilitate the organisation, conduct, promotion and commercial and financial management of the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games. However, I cannot see mention in the Bill of an “Olympic Coordination Authority (OCA” so this confirms this body will be enacted with a separate piece of legislation. For the many of us Olympics fans, not too long to wait now (as in probably first quarter of 2022?) to see some early key decisions around the organisation Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games, including the establishment of an OCA.
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  16. here is a link to the bill before the house - it's only 40 pages
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  17. No, let the speculation on Beijing end. I have a better chance of qualifying for the Olympics than the Olympics do of being postponed. Tokyo was held during a surge. So you can be certain that China will do the same, even if they have major COVID protocols or vaccine requirements in place that make participation difficult for some. Yes, we can talk about what those protocols might be, but let's not pretend for a split second that Omicron is a threat to the Olympics.
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  18. Gina can pay for Perth to host-she can afford it!
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  19. Your seats sound truly amazing for such a memorable life experience. Yes looking at the OC video now you can see people holding up cameras everywhere, before the smartphone era. Yes, you’re right, plenty of photos online. My camera photos weren’t the best I remember the buzz of the very first look at the stadium set-up when I walked in and I couldn’t figure out where the cauldron was going to travel as had no idea that it was hidden under the top tier of the stage. I also recall the jumbo screens were gradually scrolling through different international messages such as, “Wave if you are from Canada,” .. or “South Africa”, etc etc. Great photo of you with the torch by the way. It must have been truly amazing an honour to actually carry the Torch. Incredible memories. I saw the relay in Perth in three different locations, couldn’t get enough of it.
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  20. I was on the tier right above Juan Antonio and the gang on the front railing....best seats in the house! However, my new digital camera failed about 5 minutes in and I got no pics...not to worry there are pics and videos everywhere now, and I could concentrate on the show! I caught the train in from my house hosting 12 people!
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  21. I was at the Opening too...best night of my life!
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  23. This is the problem with Agenda 2020. If Shanghai jumps in now and does everything right, of course it will tick every box and be technically sound. On what basis can the IOC turn it down? Not every Agenda 2020 'preferred candidate' will be as benevolent as Brisbane. What the rigidness of Agenda 2020 fails to capture is optics and mood - something only an IOC vote with multiple options could hope to mitigate. Case in point is the select of Sydney over Beijing in 1993 with Tiannamen Square so fresh in people's minds.
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  24. Personally, I have not really cared for any Winter Games medal design since Innsbruck 64 and 76. 1988 was the last sort of traditional medal shape, after that we get crazy glass and bagel medals.
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  25. Just FYI: according to their coalition agreement in the “sports” chapter, the incoming German government (social democrats/green/(neo-)liberals) pledges support for future Olympic bids, provided there is timely involvement/participation of the public. In other words: if a bid wants government support, it needs to hold a referendum, as I understand it.
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  26. Brisbane Olympics 2032: Qld to be events capital of Australia
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  27. That is probably NOT a wise idea for any O host city now because the winners -- espeiclally Athletics are NOT finalized until 8-9 yers down the road. Remember, the IOC and WADA are still re-awarding many medals from London 2012 to those found doping by the cheating Russians. So, certainly, any smart stadium will NOT be engraving names of Olympic "winners" on their walls so long as those are still in flux and the jury is out.
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  28. I do not know the reason why some seats are removed contemporarily. As for the plate of 1964,it is installed permanently where people cannot easily find.
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  29. My initial thought reading Dan Roan's tweet was this is excellent, but the write-up on the Olympic site is bizarre. I really don't know what to make of it. It certainly hasn't resolved things.
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  30. did..........did Bach just do that??? My god........he really is a puppet of money isnt he. I had low expectations buy holy hell dude. That woman is in danger, and it is abundantly clear, and you play second fiddle for the CCP? That is low.....
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  31. Yeah. You don;t need to do that. It’s superfluous, especially when it’s so obviously a spam post. I may not be on constantly, but I do check in regularly several times each day. I’ll terminate them with extreme prejudice when I notice them. What happened in this case was i clicked on the thread to flag it, but instead of flagging the original spammer, I ended up flagging the last poster on it - unfortunately, you. Don’t worry about it in the future - I believe any acknowledgement of such spamming just gives them oxygen, and it avoids such stuff-ups as this in the future. Don’t worry, me or one of the other mods will notice and zap. Unfortunately, that’s beyond my user privileges. You’d have to request GBModerator. I don’t know if it’s technically possible or not. Cross fingers. Wish you a speedy recovery from Covid. Hang in there.
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  32. That may have been my fault. I was deleting some spam counterfeit passport threads the other day and I accidentally flagged AustralianFan as the spammer. Only GBModerator could undo that. I do apologise profusely to @AustralianFan, sorry for that and hope it didn’t cause you too much anguish. So sorry if it also deleted any of your posts. And thanks for reporting spam, but in future DO NOT POST ON ANY OF THOSE THREADS. It can cause all sorts of probs if you do. You don’t need to tell them they’ve been reported and we’ll find them anyway - they’re not exactly subtle.
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  33. Actually, Greece couldn't play the 'we are owed' card for '96, since they didn't really have any failed bids, at that point, under their belt to make such a claim for. What they played was the "we have an absolute RIGHT to host the Centennial Olympics, because we are the 'birthplace' of the Olympic Games, & you better damn well give it to us" card. I'd also further say, that many candidates in the past, have played the "we *deserve* to host the Olympics" card based on X or Y factor (i.e. Beijing 2008, Rio 2016. And India wants to play their X-factor now, too, for 2036). But if any city is "owed" an Olympics due to the number of failed bis that they have had, then that honor goes to the darling of all failed bids, Istanbul. The always a bridesmaid, but never a bride candidate. But to downright demand (i.e. Athens 1996), or being cocky & putting down your opponents (i.e. Rome 2004) or claim that you are "owed" (i.e. Spain) an Olympics, will always get you nowhere.
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  34. Looks really nice lit up in red.
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  35. completely agreed there. I cannot think of anyone besides Japan successfully pulling that off the way that they did. The IOC was extraordinarily fortunate that they awarded a games to Tokyo. It absolutely was the best case scenario under the circumstances
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  36. Interesting about that Polish luger… Chinese censoring already warming up too: https://twitter.com/tomaszsajewicz/status/1458003408678363139?s=21
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  37. From Baron’s post of the Inside The Games article, World Rowing has approved the shorter, narrower Long Beach venue for flat-water rowing subject to examination of the effects of tides there and approvals from the Long Beach City Council. I understand the 1932 Long Beach venue can only fit 7 lanes and not the usual 8 Olympic rowing lanes. Coastal rowing as new competitions also look to be going ahead in Long Beach.
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  38. Looks needlessly complicated when you think doesn't the Spurs stadium just shove the whole pitch under the big stand? Useful though if you can turn the Bernabeu into two huge indoor arenas - maybe put a roof on Spurs and you could do the same . I guess this would host basketball and gymnastics at a Madrid Olympics, just a shame you can't stuff an athletics track in there...
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  39. Saw bits of the Nanjing 2014 OC. China always know how to put on a show.
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  40. It’s certainly possible for the ceremonies to be at Lavell Stadium. I think though having just spent all that money completely stripping down, reinventing and rebuilding the 2002 Cauldron and a new Olympic plaza around it at it’s new west side location, I think the spiritual home of the Winter Olympics will remain at Rice-Eccles Stadium in a 2030 or 2034 Games homecoming.
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  41. I don't think it's misleading at all. You're not reading it right. The article & the way it's worded are for the possible No-Olympix people and their supporters who will shout that "new contruction again will be required" for another round of hosting. The article DIRECTLY addresses that -- including apparently Univ. of Utah's dorms which it seems are now enough to host 3,000+ athletes.
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  42. How weird or of a coincidence it would be though if they award 2027 to America and 2031 to Australia. They are literally following the Olympics 2019 RWC- Japan, 2020 2021 OLY- Tokyo, Japan 2023 RWC- France, 2024 OLY- Paris, France 2027 RWC- USA, 2028 OLY- Los Angeles, USA 2031 RWC- Australia, 2032 OLY- Brisbane, Australia
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  43. But they’re not negotiating anything are they? The 2026 Commonwealth Games are now only 5 years away. The normal lead-in time from host announcement to Com Games is 7 years. An emergency Host is now needed for 2026. Do you have any recent evidence, examples or announcments by the NSW Government in this regard? Has the NSW Government recently announced that they are actually negotiating or organising an emergency Commonwealth Games in 2026? It would be political death for the NSW State Government if they were to launch into an emergency Commonwealth Games bid right now. They are already being blamed by the elctorate for taking too long to lockdown at the start of this massive outbreak. Perth 2026 As far as Perth’s capability goes, you’re way out of date. Things have come a long way since they hosted the CW Games in 1962. Athletics/Ceremonies - Optus Stadium - 60,000 - has the best and newestbhigh tech stadium in the whole country and last might hosted the AFL Grand Final to a capacity crowd. Design and dimensions enables mode switch to athletics. Aquatics/Swimming/Diving - Perth Superdrome complex - has hosted the FINA World Swimming Championships twice at the Superdrome Aquatic complex facilities in 1991 and 1998. Used 15,000 capacity temporary grandstands as in CWG 2018 Gold Coast Badminton - Perth Badminton Arena Basketball - WA Basketball Centre Beach Volleyball - Scarborough Beach Boxing - Perry Lakes Basketball Stadium Cricket T20 - WACA Cycling Track - SpeedDome velodrome Gymnastics - Perth Arena - 15,500 large hi-tech large CBD arena which hosts NBL Team Perth Wildcats,and Tennis tournaments Hockey - Perth Hockey Stadium Judo - at one of a number of indoor community sports centres ,similar to CWG 2018 Gold Coast Lawn Bowls - North Perth Lawn Bowls Centre Mountain Biking - Kalamunda Mountain Bike Park Netball - State Netball Centre Rugby Sevens - Joondalup Arena Shooting - Whiteman Park Squash - The Squash Factory Table Tennis - at one of a number of indoor community sports centres ,similar to CWG 2018 Gold Coast Triathlon - Swan River, Kings Park Weightlifting - Perth Concert Hall Wrestling - at one of a number of indoor community sports centres ,similar to CWG 2018 Gold Coast
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  44. Oh my. He's pretty tasty. :-P
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