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  1. Agreed, that would definitely be the best format for a new vote. But given the Leave camps' aversion to democratic norms both during and since the referendum they should think themselves lucky if they get a second referendum with their preferred* 'No Deal' option on it. My real preference would be to revoke article 50, point out the lies and illegality, the lack of a single coherent plan, the various contradictory promises made, and tell them to come up with something workable or shut up. That's what they deserve, but unfortunately, I think the country needs to do this democratically so we don't get any whingers saying their unicorn Brexit was denied them. * everyone in the various Leave camps said in 2016 we'd get a deal, insisted there was no risk of leaving without one, many said it'd be "easy". But lets leave aside that bit of sophistry for now. Again, I'm being generous.
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  3. The numbers make it as clear as it could be. Theresa May hasn't just been beaten tonight. She, and her deal, have been annihilated. The idea of having talks across parties in the light of this vote is all very well, but it is too little, too late. Mrs May should have been reaching out to other parties from the moment she lost her Parliamentary majority, at the very least. The fact that she hasn't, and even now is trying to save her deal, is part of the reason why we are now in the mess that we are. So what happens now? Assuming that tomorrow's motion of no confidence is defeated, as I expect it to be, it may be that a majority can be found for some alternative form of Brexit, though it is difficult to see exactly what that might be at the moment. I have felt for some time that the only way to resolve this is put the issue back to the people in another referendum. After all, we were asked to begin this process so there is no logic to the argument that we should not be asked to finish it. However, I do not believe that such a poll could be carried out with just a single question. To me, voters should be asked to approve or reject whatever form of Brexit comes forward from Parliament. If it is approved, then the issue is settled. If it is not, then we have to have the choice of our current membership or leaving with no deal. I don't think there is any guarantee that Remain would win such a poll, but it appears to me to be the best way to settle things right now.
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