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    It's a pity though that those pics ARE the legacy of the games that a fair chunk of the world media are running this week in their 10 year commemoration pieces. It's certainly not helping boost popular public perceptions of the benefits of hosting the games.
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    birthplace "The ceremony I dreamt of creating had clarity of form and economy of colour, focused exclusively on art history, took a sensual approach to Greek identity, and bore an underlying sexuality that would make it engaging on a visceral level. I sought to create intimacy on a grand, spectacular scale, and to appeal to archetypal emotions and images in order for the ceremony to work on both a spiritual and emotional level. The ceremony could not be a story – it could only be the unfolding of a dream sequence." Dimitris Papaioannou "I woke with this marble head in my hands — it exhausts my elbows and I do not know where to put it down. It was falling into the dream as I was coming out of the dream so our life became one and it will be very difficult for it to separate again.” George Seferis — Mythistorema 3 ten years on — a blog celebrating memories of the ceremony — with new documentary material by Athina Rachel Tsangari http://birthplace2004.com
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    And this is why nobody even bothers writing anything about Athens 2004 here anymore. Because baron always has to pop up and reminds us why the games (or the opening ceremony) were so horrible and we shouldn't ever see it by the penalty of death.
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    Indeed it is. Truly excellent documentaries: http://birthplace2004.com
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    Atlanta didn't "delay" anything. The timing of Greece's financial collapse occurred independently of the Olympics. Whether Athens hosted in 1996 or 2004 wasn't going to make any meaningful difference to the state of the Greek economy or when it fell. I believe that had Athens won the right to stage Olympics in 1996, the Games would have had far more deficiencies. Their Games in 2004 were staged exceptionally well. As Rob wrote, the Olympics were symptomatic of the devil-may-care attitude the Greeks took towards finances. The Olympics were not a ruse to conceal the state of the Greek economy. They certainly were not a trigger to bring about economic collapse. They were simply the most visible manifestation of fiscal irresponsibility.
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    Obviously, the bad PR Azerbaijan got when hosting Eurovision 2012 did not make the news in Perth.
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    Thank you for doing an excellent job of illustrating my point. Seattle sees an uptick in tourism when it is showcased to an audience, not simply because they have something to sell. Just like Barcelona didn't see a boom in tourism until they got showcased during the Olympics. They could have built the most beautiful beaches in existence, but it wouldn't have mattered until all those potential tourists got a taste of what Barcelona had to offer. So in that regard, the hosting was more important than the infrastructure. And again, those 2 work hand in hand when it comes to the Olympics. No, Barcelona absolutely could not have done what they did without the Olympics for that reason. You're right that an Olympics isn't always the best investment for a city. It's extremely expensive and often leaves you with white elephants (although that's hardly the case for Barcelona.. they already had the main stadium plus many of the venues in place and the most prominent venue they built was Palau Sant Jordi which has seen plenty of use). If you want to talk about tax breaks for shooting films, that's a completely different argument altogether. Either way, the history of Barcelona is that Port Vell and Barceloneta and other areas got revitalized as a direct result of Barcelona hosting the Olympics, so that wouldn't have happened if they didn't also build a few stadiums and hosted athletics competitions. You can make the case that infrastructure might have gotten built without the Olympics, but there's no way of knowing that for sure.
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    You do realize that the Olympics are only held once every 4 years, so therefore only a limited number of cities can host, right? So the collective odds of all of these cities hosting can only add up to the number of Olympic hosts we're talking about. No.. a relatively unknown city in a country of only 10 million people has little chance to host an Olympics anytime soon.
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    Oh, noes! Qatar cries foul. You really think the IOC members would give a crap?
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    they also have to build all that stuff for the apline events, which still costs a buttload of money. Quite literally (according to the chart) every alpine venue either has to be built or renovated, and we don't know how much renovation is needed either. Thats why I personally think they will end up spending a lot more that we're told now.
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    He reminded me of Marina Abramovic, those visionary performance artist whose works transcends the body and stage to touch us in an emotional way.
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    Rio passes first Olympic test, water quality surprisesThu Aug 15 (Reuters) - Rio de Janeiro passed its first 2016 Olympics test with the end of an international sailing regatta on Guanabara Bay, one of the most heavily criticized venues in a city under attack for disorganization and construction delays. During the week-long event many athletes and coaches were surprised to find the bay's notoriously dirty water - infamous for raw sewage, floating garbage, boat-battering debris and animal corpses - to be far cleaner than expected. "I noticed a big difference, there was a lot less rubbish in the water than there was a year ago," said Jo Aleh, helmswoman for the winning New Zealand team in the Women's 470 class at the end of that competition on Saturday. A long-time critic of the venue, Aleh said she preferred the pristine waters of her Pacific Island nation and still felt Guanabara Bay needed work. But she pointed out that many races are being held outside the bay in the open ocean where the water is "just fine." Nor, she and other sailors added, is Rio the only important world sailing venue with water-quality issues. Pollution-fed algae blooms threatened Olympic sailing at the Beijing Games in Quingdao in 2008 and were only resolved in the weeks before the event started. Concern Rio won't meet its cleanup goals has eased enough that Jorge Fundak, sports director for the Austrian sailing federation, is pushing organizers to hold more races in the bay and fewer in the cleaner open ocean. It is harder for TV to cover events outside the bay, he said. CONCERNS EXAGGERATED Eilidh McIntyre, part of the two-person team that took ninth place in the Women's 470 Class, said concerns about the water were understandable but exaggerated. "Most days the water was crystal clear," McIntyre said. "We saw dolphins. We did see a dead dog. But you can run into something like that almost anywhere." State officials responsible for water quality acknowledge the Guanabara Bay still has serious pollution problems, but say they are concentrated away from the sailing venue. News reports, they added, have unfairly confused two separate water-quality problems: human health hazards caused by sewage and racing-quality issues caused by debris. State water-quality numbers starting in 1980 and reviewed by Reuters show the Olympic sailing areas have, on average, been rated "Excellent" or "Satisfactory" since 2005. That means they are suitable for swimming and meet limits for concentrations of fecal coliforms, disease-causing bacteria found in human excrement. Alistair Fox, head of competitions for the International Sailing Federation (ISAF), said his organization supervised Rio's water-testing program and was satisfied that the water in the race courses is meeting local and international standards. Problems still surface after major rainstorms when sewage from illegal connections or shantytowns gets mixed with rainwater and flushed into the bay, said Jose Candido Muricy, a Rio government spokesman for Olympic and environmental issues. GOOD QUALITY One of the outfall points is in the yacht harbor, the Marina da Gloria, where the sailing events will be based. Tests showed the water quality to be good during the test regatta probably because it was held, just as the Olympics will be, during the low-rain Southern Hemisphere winter, he said. But Muricy promises to eliminate that threat. An interceptor sewer should be completed by September 2015 to channel sewage away from the Marina and the bay. Its construction was delayed by the collapse of Brazilian tycoon Eike Batista's EBX Group, which had promised to pay for half the project, he said. As for the debris, Rio has closed old landfills that sloughed garbage into local rivers and is completing a network of "eco-barriers" on major bay tributaries to trap garbage before it can pollute the bay. A fleet of garbage-collection boats also regularly works on the bay to scoop up stuff the barriers miss, he said. Reuters
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    Thanks savas It's been 10 years... and I still have in my ears the heartbeat and the "Olympic games welcome back to Greece!"...
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    I always thought about 40 years (10 Olympiads) between Australian (and effectively Oceania Games) was about right. So 1956, 2000 then around 2040.
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    This is not the Mrs Doubtfire house. Why would you do this? So strange.
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    That's why I always said the IOC screwed up by blaming the timing as Qatars major problem instead of well let's see (no alcohol, hatred of gays/women, no sporting legacy, etc). As for Melbourne, it would be great but didn't John Coates already say it wasn't the time for Australia to bid again? Plus didn't he also say when we do bid it'll be with Brisbane? I know he said it 2 years ago but he hasn't said much about Melbourne and I also know Melbourne would have a better shot but still, if they want to bid, it'd be good to have his blessing.
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    Yep, that's one big elephant in the room. Ask Qatar if they'd be cool if Melbourne was given an exemption from the IOC's July-August window.
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    And why do you think that is. Before the 1992 Summer Olympics, Barcelona was an old, decrepit industrial town. Those beaches that you speak of, were a direct result of the city's transformation for the Games. Demolishing old, abandoned warehouses & making way for new recreational public areas. The cruise port-of-call is also a result of the Olympics, not the other way around. Pre-1992, the top three most visited cities in Europe were London, Paris & Rome (back then, Barcelona wasn't even in the top ten). Nowadays, it's London, Paris & Barcelona. The city underwent a $12 Billion (by today's Olympic dollars) transformation for the 1992 Summer Olympics. Certainly a city that was already on the "upswing" wouldn't have needed to invest so much if that were truly the case. Maybe Madrid was on the uptick, but Barcelona was definitely underneath-the-radar before they ever hosted the Games. Barcelona is one of the few cities that the Olympics did indeed put them on the global map.
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    Could I submit a new logo?
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    I was at all of those venues in person during the Games. Seeing the deterioration is tragic.
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    It's not so much the regional development as such (though why one of the warmest cities of Russia should be picked for Winter Games could still be debated after all those years...), but who was benefitting from this development - the companies owned quite often by people connected to Putin. The IOC let it all happen - they're watching closely what's going on in Rio, but they didn't interfere at all with Sochi, it seems. If they had wanted to, they could have demanded a few changes here and there to make it all less gigantomanic.
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    When will realism in those parts of the world finally set in? Even all the (one-day ending) oil money can't make the climate conditions in the Gulf region more favourable for outdoor sports activities, at least in the IOC calendar window (and beyond that). I'm tired of those nouveau-riche regimes and their extraterrestial ideas.
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    ^^ I like the idea of doing the lightning in Delhi. After all is the city where everything began, and the ceremonies each host had were sometimes weird and inconsistent, kinda like before the Pan Am Games established the tradition of lightning the torch in the Sun Temple at Tenochtitlan Video of the lightning, by the way.
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    Incheon Asian Games Torch Lit in New Delhi The torch carrying the flame for the Incheon Asian Games is shown during the flame lighting ceremony at New Delhi Stadium in India on Saturday. /Xinhua-Newsis The torch of the Incheon Asian Games was lit on Saturday at New Delhi Stadium in India, where the sporting event was held for the first time. The Games officially kick off Sept. 19. Until now, the torch has been customarily lit in the host country. Incheon's organizing committee came up with the idea to light the torch both in the host country and in New Delhi, in order to acknowledge the sporting event's history. The idea has been accepted by the Olympic Council of Asia. The torch will travel through China to arrive in Incheon on Aug. 13, where it will be combined with another flame lit on Mt. Mani, Ganghwa Island, on the 12th. http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2014/08/11/2014081100846.html
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