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  1. There are an awful lot of so-called 'observations' regarding the London 2012 opening that I disagree with but I would like to put one to bed immediately: the notion that the audience in the Stadium would not have felt 'involved' in the performance such was it's 'passive' nature. I was at the Opening Ceremony of London 2012 and I could not have felt more involved! A few examples spring to mind immediately and more would if I had the time to think about it: Firstly, the 'pixel devices.' Members of the audience were encouraged at various points in the Ceremony to remove them from their stands and effectively 'play' with them! That might be move them back and fore in time to some of the music or simply give them a hearty wave and form part of the patterns which were made - not shown prominently in the TV coverage, I hasten to add. Secondly, at various points in the Ceremony, the audience were encouraged to sing along with various songs and also play with 'zorb' balls which descended upon us (as illustrated by the video extract shown.) Thirdly, and by far the most poignantly, a couple of days before the Ceremony, we all received an email inviting us to send in a photograph of a close friend or relative who had passed away for display in a 'memorial wall.' My mother passed away back in 2005 and I sent in a photo of her as she would have loved to have attended the Ceremony. This photo was displayed as part of the 'memorial wall' and the fact that it had been chosen had a real impact on me for the rest of the evening and, to be honest, has had since. I would challenge those who have criticised the Ceremony to look at the clip below (and it is my own, so no copyright issues) and tell me which bit of 'passivity' they'd like to take a swipe at now. My apologies, for some reason, that link is to the wrong clip, although people are quite welcome to watch it anyway! This is the correct clip...
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  2. I hope these Games are introduction in Toronto 2024
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  3. Toronto 2024, yeah!
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  4. I want to try and clear this up. (1) Rugby has as much to do with the Olympics as James Bond does. [Acutally even more now given its inclusion in Rio 2016]. .... the rugby clips were a message to the 4 nations of the UK - a chest-beating flag-waving moment if you like.. .... while James Bond "spoke" to the international audience. [and thankyou to OlympicFan2004 for highlighting the inclusion of host-nation/region-specific non-Olympic sports in previous Olympic Ceremonies. Incidently, I'd be quite happy to see a 20 second clip of memorable SuperBowl moments in a future US Games OC] (2) THIS IS IMPORTANT.... the Four Nations Choirs sang the following beautiful RUGBY-RELATED hymns. Jerusalem, Oh Danny Boy, Guide Me Oh Thou Great Redeemer (Bread of Heaven) Flower of Scotland. Now (bear with me).... Despite being English, I only know "Jerusalem" from a rugby context (shame on me!). It has become the unofficial England anthem amongst its rugby union supporters and is clearly heard on the TV broadcasts when England play. Ditto "Guide Me Oh Thou Great Redeemer (Bread of Heaven)" - one of my favourites. I only know it from watching rugby union on the TV starting in the 1970s. It is sung with huge gusto by the Welsh rugby fans. Again, "Flower of Scotland"... exactly the same in that I only became aware of it in a rugby context. And now both the Scotland Rugby Union and Football (Soccer) teams sing it as their official anthem. "Danny Boy" - not sung in a rugby context by the Irish but a well-known Irish song anyway. --------------------- So to understand that segment (the Four Nations Choirs) is to understand the UK and it's sporting heritage and culture. Rugby has produced great moments to Northern Ireland (who play with the Republic of Ireland as one nation: "Ireland), Wales and Scotland and England (and France!). If YOU were trying to find a sporting reference that could play alongside the 4 hymns, making strong, uplifting references to our 4 nations, ... which SPORT would you chose? Football/soccer? Nope. Doesnt work anywhere near as well as rugby. Cricket? Nope. Athletics? Hockey? Boxing? Nothing works as well in this context as RUGBY. The crucial point here is that our 4 home nations compete as 1 nation at the Olympics: UK ("TeamGB"). So an Olympic sport wouldn't work AT ALL. The whole idea of the segment is to say: Northern Ireland, Wales, Scotland! THIS IS FOR YOU AS WELL. ------------------ Asking both "why rugby?" and "what the hell does rugby have to do with the Olympics?" are both legitimate questions in my opinion. I hope I've answered both. Spot on Davey. I say again, that the clips lasted a total of 17 seconds.
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  5. For me, I thought it was to show a sport that links all 4 nations but also divides us as we all support our national team. Rugby is a far more friendly rivalry than football could ever be, that was how I saw it. I have to admit I didnt find it nescassary, the choirs were doing a grand job of linking all the nations with their own song but I suppose adding the sporting aspect put a different spin on it. I think when people are confused by the inclusion suddenly it becomes a bigger deal. The clips were a matter of seconds but for the guys that didn't get it it seems they lasted an eternity.
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  6. I love the shots looking down from the Tor amongst the drummers, the brassband and the paperboys in the directors cut. Its definately superior to the shown version. Makes you appreciate the BBC even more knowing we could watch the full show rather than it peppered with ad breaks. If anyone in the UK isnt aware you can vote for the ceremony to win a BAFTA, its in the Radio Times viewers award.
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  7. yes but a tomato is fruit, do you put it in a fruit salad? this subject is getting too pedantic. can we move on. rugby and cricket was shown at the OC to show you the culture of Britain. i will agree that the cutways were bizarre and did not fit right. but discussing that 'these should not be at the OC' just lead us to a spiraling descent of pedantic frustrations and useless discussion.
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  8. I agree that the Evaluation Report will tell the story. Assuming all things are relatively equal in the Evaluation Report, I think these are the weaknesses that will factor in coming down the home stretch: Istanbul weak points: transportation, spread out venues. Madrid weak points: Barcelona '92, economy. Tokyo weak points: lack of sex appeal.
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  9. Not true. Beijing displayed tai chi - a sport that is not on the Olympic programme either. Seoul had a taekwondo demonstration in its opening ceremony - before taekwondo became part of the official Olympic programme in 1996. Just like tai chi for China and taekwondo for Korea, rugby is one of the definining sports for Great Britain. So it had the same justification to be represented in an opening ceremony in London just like the other two sports were rightfully displayed in Beijing and Seoul.
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  10. If you have some 3 months of vacations, it's is achievable!
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  11. How about we create a pre-school/early childhood education forum for those of you who haven't graduated to big-boy pants yet? [/yawn]
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  12. The flying dove bike was accompanied on NBC by a feeble E.T. quip. As for "Green and Pleasant"- NBC viewers really did see a different show, but not hugely different: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brgwWLKfuJ8 (the kids do shut up quite quickly) And I'm just going to have to live in permanent disagreement with Athensfan about the "attenuated" connection of Rugby with the Olympics being held in the UK. I think the IOC President probably appreciated the reference, at least: Jacques Rogge, speech at the 2012 Opening Ceremony: "In a sense, the Olympic Games are coming home tonight. This great, sport-loving country is widely recognised as the birthplace of modern sport. It was here that the concepts of sportsmanship and fair play were first codified into clear rules and regulations. It was here that sport was included as an educational tool in the school curriculum. The British approach to sport had a profound influence on Pierre de Coubertin, our founder, as he developed the framework for the modern Olympic movement at the close of the 19th century. The values that inspired de Coubertin will come to life over the next 17 days, as the world's best athletes compete in a spirit of friendship, respect, and fair play." French Wikipedia ( http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_de_Coubertin ): "Dès 1883, lors de séjours outre-Manche, il y pratique tous les sports anglo-saxons ... Pendant trois ans il observe le plan de formation sociale et morale des établissements scolaires britanniques qu'il considère comme une des causes de la puissance de cette nation. De retour en France, il se consacre à l'amélioration du système éducatif français en s'inspirant des exemples britannique et américain, particulièrement des travaux du Britannique Thomas Arnold concernant le sport scolaire."
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