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What exactly has been the point of the last 160 pages, then? When did we cross the line into throwing away anything, potentially legitamate, anyone brings up in this thread simply because "it won't matter, you'll never know!" in the end. Some of us are still looking out for this thing, some of us are still intereted in seeing if we can figure out where this damn cauldron is before the 27th. If you're not at all anymore, then maybe you should step out of this thread. You can always start a seperate thread for discussions that truly are tedious, nuance-filled, and ultimately un-conclusionalbe.

It MIGHT be hiding under any bushel anywhere. This whole thread is such TOTAL guesswork at this juncture that I don't see the point. LOCOG HAS WON. They've kept the secret. Is it in the blue structure? The purple structure? The white one? Under a bridge? In the canal? Scattered all over the city? There's no way to know anything. Do you realize that even after it is lit you won't know where it's been concealed prior to the ceremonies? If that's engrossing to you (I mean this sincerely) I hope you really have fun speculating, but I don't think it's reasonable to get irritated by a bit of topic drift considering the lack of information.

Out of all the off-topic disucssions this thread has spiraled into, this "London: first three time Olympic host city or not?" one is by the far the most insufferable and uninteresting.

You know what? I think you're right. They had likely done that while preparing themselves for that big wedding for, say, being there for at least a month last year. So I can imagine the NBC was there all over the UK filming all that in their aerial shots--and lots of them--for the intro along with the "fairly sizable" library of contemporary London and British footage it already has. I know NBC has done those dry runs in the UK (not just London) in just about everything to get prepared. Which reminds me. To be honest, I haven't seen those British Tourism commercials on NBC that were airing during these four years. Surely we can remember when, starting with Barcelona, NBC really started to take over the US Olympic broadcasting, we would see commercials from the Spanish Tourism Commission specifically about Barcelona and later with the Australian Tourist Commission during NBC Sports' commercial breaks to get ourselves for the upcoming Olympics in those countries since NBC had the US TV rights to those Games. I must admit that I tend to work significantly during the weekends to miss the British one. DIRECTV gets into the Olympic act once again in the US with a mosaic Olympic channel that includes Telemundo. http://www.directv.c...sports/olympics Details on Dial Global Sports with NBC are doing the radio Olympic coverage: http://dialglobalspo...-radio-network/ Dial Global Sports' complete Olympic radio schedule for the United States. I kinda wish it would do more and be more varied in the sports they take but it's OK. People's interest in several sports require visualism. http://dialglobalspo...chive=olympics/ That's surprising. I certainly don't have a 3DTV in my household. I don't think many that I instantly know have such a set unless you get the 3D capabilities from digital satelitte/cable/telco. Interest is surely there and I know sales are solid going to the likes of Best Buy. But unless I get the glasses among the package and dish, not getting into the program for I'm not yet ready for that. http://www.marketwat...ames-2012-07-20 In one of the two Olympic promos from TNU Uruguay, we see several of the notable past moments of Olympic glory over the years for Uruguay Fuji TV apparently is doing the Olympic women's marathon, something the Japanese have a strong tradition in, as the centerpiece of its coverage in the Japan Consortium. Its presenters and reporters are Taichi Kokuban, Rio Hirai, Tomoko Honda, Kazuhiro Wantanabe, Tomoaki Ogmura, Shoji Miyake, and Shuhuei Mainoumi. http://translate.goo...ved=0CEUQ7gEwAA http://translate.goo...ved=0CFEQ7gEwAA But this is what else Fuji TV has in store in its London Olympic TV coverage--track, judo, a little soccer, volleyball, synchronized swimming, and track and field: http://translate.goo...ved=0CFoQ7gEwAA This is TBS' Olympic website. My Japanese is almost nonexistent. Can't do any translations with this one at the moment to provide further info on it. Its English version holds much less information with nothing on the Olympics whatsoever. But from what I can gather the TBS coverage starts from July 29-August 12 with some days skipped, and it looks as though there will be judo, boxing, taekwondo and/or weightlifting. Will try again later. http://www.tbs.co.jp/olympic/ Looks like Nippon TV (NTV) will deal with swimming, track and field, and rhythmic gymnastics http://translate.goo...ved=0CDEQ7gEwAA Found absoutely nothing from TV Asahi or the JAITS. If you thought the Hong Kong Olympic TV saga with the free to air realm was bad, wait until you hear about the Thailand situation among the FTA Olympic broadcasters. Modernine TV is part of a Thai Olympic TV consortium of its own called the TV Poll with NBT, TV5, and Channel 3, and Channel 7 in a cost-sharing basis. During EURO 2012 there was a scramble to save 7 million satelitte subscribers from having the TrueVision coverage blacked out during that over copyright grounds from the rights holders, and the FTAs were rapidly looking for a solution for the London Olympics. With that disaster out of the way, this controversy stemmed from a dispute between the TV Pool and True Visions over the TV rights to the Olympics. TrueVisions has the satelitte coverage rights. Right now, the NTBC "must carry" the Olympics so thus the Games will not be blacked out and to have stronger and clearer rules in terms of this going forward. http://www.nationmul...s-30185620.html http://www.bangkokpo...cs-black-screen http://www.bangkokpo...ir-for-everyone http://www.nationmul...n-30185945.html http://www.thaivisa....acked-out-nbtc/ CyBC (or PIK) in Cyprus will have PIK 2 deal with the Olympics. It already has Olympic Preview going on for the two days before the Opening Ceremony, which comes on live at 10pm (23:00) Cyprus time. Will get more details next week. Show your support for for Team Ireland in Olympics with RTE ETV's Olympic website is now up: http://om.err.ee/ ETV's and ETV2's Olympic TV schedule in Estonia http://om.err.ee/742...6c-bfd129aabbe1 MBC's 2012 Olympic website: http://olympic.imbc.com/ MBC's portion of the South Korean Olympic TV schedule: http://translate.goo...ved=0CD8Q7gEwAA

Innsbruck also just hosted the 1st Youth Olympic Games, an IOC-certified Games. And the fact that: - the Innsbruck mayor mentioned their 3x in his Welcome Speech with the IOC brass present right there; and - they used 3 cauldrons AHEAD of London--and the IOC not stopping them, makes them, to me...the FIRST Modern Era city to host 3 Olympic (Winter) Games. London is the 1st Summer 3-peater, but going by the calendar, Innsbruck beats them by a nose. Actually, until the IOC and the Olympic historians rejigged the calendar, Athens (you would like that) is technically the first Summer 3-peater. Until about the mid-1980s, the 1906 Intercalated Games were always included in Olympic history books. However, because it had only half the IOC's blessing at the time, messed up the 4-year pattern of history, they decided to declassify those Games, even though many world records were broken for those Games. But it had all the trappings of a regular Olympic Games, plus a number of the IOC nabobs of the time were in attendance. So, technically, Athens could lay claim to being the first summer 3-peater in the complete spirit of the Olympic wor(l)d and ideals over London. (I think this footnote is very important historically.)

ZDF's funny 2012 Olympic promo where people in various parts of London emulate Olympic sports in their everyday routines and encounters. This is not the only one that does this. Others of a similar vein are coming soon. Taio Cruz's official song appears here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBFjXkykbgg YLE is using Lawo consoles for its 2012 London Olympics coverage on YLE TV1, TV2, and FST5 http://www.tvbeurope...-at-london-2012 Grass Valley's longstanding relationship with ERR (specifically ETV) in helping the network cover it with Grass Valley's video cameras, replay system, and a HD production switcher. http://www.tvbeurope...th-grass-valley Now we know about Doordarshan's TV plans. Doordarshan could well earn Rs 20 crore from its revenue of the Olympics. Its sponsors are the Department of Consumer Affiars, India Oil, Life Insurance Company of India, Oil and Natural Gas, and Hero Motors. But the real thing of interest, something that is growing in India with having some strong medal contenders despite cricket's great strength, is DD Sports will have 14 hours every day with swimming, field hockey, archery, boxing, badminton, and track and field from 12:30 local time onward. Before that, it will show the Opening Ceremony. DD National will focus on the Indian Olympians with a 30-minute capsule at 7:30 and then a one-hour highlight show later at 9am. http://www.livemint....from-O.html?h=B BNT gives the Bulgarian Olympians a nice send off at its Sofia headqaurters http://translate.goo...ved=0CCcQ7gEwAA Now there's confirmation on what NOS will do and where it will broadcast the Olympics thanks to this promo using the Handsome Poets' theme song. Nederland 1 takes care of the TV side, NOS Radio 1 for radio, and Nos.nl and NOS Teletekst I'm thinking that TV Record has the Brazilian FTA coverage for over 24 hours a day. On TV Tokyo's Olympic broadcast, the head anchor is Takahiro Sato with the reporters are all female in Miho Koga, Daikyo Miho, and Reina Akimoto. Theme song is from Bradberry Orchestra featuring Sugashikao, Crystal Kay, and Salyu called "Physical" http://www.tv-tokyo....ympic2012/cast/ http://www.tv-tokyo....ympic2012/song/ Yeah Triplecast, Sandomir and company should've been more honest about the entertainment stuff like the Ceremonies for online. VTV in Vietnam will come into London led by journalist Phan Ngoc Tien, VTV's Deputy Head Sports & Recreation Economic Information, "the commander" of VTV 2012 Olympics, on behalf of the operational crew in Olympics, with Studio S8 as the main headquarters having been prepared for the coverage with EURO 2012 and World Cup, ASIAD, and the South East Asian Games. If I read that right, VTV will have VTV2, VTV3, and VTV6 coveraing the Olympics. After showing the Opening Ceremony, its coverage will be soccer, swimming, track and field, all the combat sports, and volleyball while granting priority to Vietnamese Olympians and the host nation and go live to them. VTV will send a team of 7 to London of reporters and experts. Could work with BTC. http://translate.goo...ved=0CCcQ7gEwAA http://translate.goo...ved=0CDsQ7gEwAA The Goodyear Blimp makes its way to London for NBC's aerial images http://www.sacbee.co...s-goodyear.html