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  1. 6 points
    What is it with you and gay slurs? Internalized homophobia? As a straight guy (even as one who likes cute animals) it would never even occur to me to say something like that.
  2. 3 points
    It's a shame that there're basically no entries this year. Here are the 3 logo I managed to come up with (the links are for the logos on white background) http://www.up2me.co.il/imgs/72996411.png http://www.up2me.co.il/imgs/592757.png http://www.up2me.co.il/imgs/83887732.png
  3. 3 points
  4. 2 points
    It's just been confirmed.. We'll do in fact have 2 different games in 2 different Birmingham in 2022.. https://theworldgames2021.com/new-dates-twg-birmingham-to-take-place-july-7-17-2022/
  5. 2 points
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/organizers-finalize-new-dates-for-tokyo-olympics-beginning-in-july-2021/ar-BB11Uz8s?ocid=spartanntp Dates finalized for Tokyo Olympics: July 23rd - August 8th 2021
  6. 2 points
    My sympathies are with the people suffering from the virus. Jesus.
  7. 2 points
    Ahhh baron, I do miss telling you how dead wrong you are. So thank you for this opportunity. You are wrong. These are extremely unprecedented times. It is very possible - and I would argue likely - that we could have a Summer Olympics in 2021. The IOC has said cancellation is NOT an option. Postponement is. NBC will not have a major say in this and if they did, they would probably advocate to move it to next Summer, not to push it back by a month. And don't forget there's also the matter of the Paralympics as well
  8. 2 points
    Should the IOC and TOCOG determine that TOKYO 2020 will proceed as planned there will likely be unprecedented changes to venues, security, travel protocols, medical preparedness, etc.. A more informational “look of games” may be necessary to identify TOKYO 2020. A comprehensive plan may include a main logo that is more connected to these games parameters. I would like to submit a logo design to TOCOG for consideration. This design was originally created for Harbin, China in a past GB logo contest and was rejected by the GB community and thus it is available now. I can be available (remotely) to discuss terms of use with TOCOG. In the unfortunate event that Tokyo 2020 is indeed cancelled I leave open the option to transfer discussions to BOCWOG for use at Beijing 2022.
  9. 2 points
    Are you OK with actually turning up now then? Ah, yes, here you are: Yes, Germany's most famous band have joined us as this is an announcement ceremony! And to conduct it, we have fahrt, fahrt, fahrted down the Autobahn to our host city, Frankenstein's hometown, DARMSTADT! We are inside whatever that tower is to crown our 13th Winter Olympic logo comp champion, & here in the heart of Germany, who could be better to do it than a man with years of experience in opening envelopes, the IOC President (& Olympic champion in fencing, 1976) himself - Thomas Bach! For once, he's not appearing via videolink - so over to you, Tommy: Bach: Danke schon - Guten abend aus alles. It is ein great honour to be here & see the athletes of [insert games here] gathered so peacefully in [insert city here]. I vish to give mein thanks to President Pu...I mean Chancellor Merkel for her support, & to Nik...I mean ze global sporting family for participating in zis great event. Ze Olympic Movement is...you know what, I do not need to do all zis. Let's get to ze point: Ze International Olympic Committee has ze honour of announcing that the 13th Gamesbids Winter Olympic Logo Competition is awarded to ze city of... PAUL! Yoshi: Danke Mr President. Your flight to Brisbane leaves soon, & Frankfurt Airport is next door. There we have it, proof that being late is not necessarily a bar on winning, as the logo comp colossus that is @paul takes title number 9! Apologies for the lack of a picture with Bach & the logo, that's due to the technical issues we've been having. Although I never heard anyone complaining that they didn't see Thomas Bach enough The result was clear after round 1, the scores were: A: 2 B: 1 C: 0 D: 4. That is Part 1 done, thank you to everyone who got involved, I know it wasn't a vintage comp with so little action on the board, but at least we had enough logos for multiple rounds. Theoretically, anyway. Thank you to everyone who submitted a logo, & also to all 7 voters. I was worried we might only get 3. Particular thanks to @Sir Rols for the admin help, poll starting, & even vote-getting thanks to his thread about old Tommy. Finally thanks to @paul for enabling us to survive Rols' Mac tragedy, & congrats once again on his latest win. And that's winter done! We will gather again tomorrow on a very special train to begin & maybe end our search for the summer champion. Until then, it's bier und bratwurst (yum) all round! AUF WIEDERSEHN!
  10. 2 points
    QSAC Is too old for such a thing. They proposed to expand it to 90,000 for the 1992 bid, but how that was ever going to achieved was questionable (though I'm sure the bid team would have made a scale model on how they were going to achieve this). I'd expect a new stadium, somewhere near public transport and easy accessibility. It can be downsized post Olympics if need be, provided that no one wants to become a tenant. That's the Achilles heel of the bid. The main stadium is going to take a huge chunk of the budget, even if you get privatize the construction of the Athletes' Village and Media Village.
  11. 2 points
    BOO! Getting close to midnight... With thanks (& apologies) to the holographic form of the late, great King of Pop/inventor of Halloween, Michael Jackson, it's time to say...WELCOME TO THE 13TH (wooooo) ANNUAL GAMESBIDS OLYMPIC LOGO COMPETITION! Before beginning, it is customary to acknowledge my fellow Nintendo legend @thatsnotmypuppy, the inventor, & my fellow womb...wait, no @Sir Rols who kept it going, & is again the general fixer-of-issues this time. Last year saw a decent turnout for a competition that took us around the world from Mexico to Mumbai, & once again in 2019, it is my/our pleasure to give the board permission to play Christmas songs all day. This competition is a little unusual, not because of the format (it's the same as last year) but because we have a theme that links the 4 cities. Since the days of Christ, 13 has been considered by many an unlucky/spooky number, so for this 13th competition, all 4 cities have that spooky touch. No need to make your logos spooky though! Let's get haunted... WINTER 2030 CITY ONE: DARMSTADT, GERMANY Located in the vicinity of Frankfurt, Darmstadt may not rank among the most famed German cities, but it's a very fitting place for a spooky excursion. High in the hills overlooking the city, you'll find Frankenstein Castle, said to have inspired the novel &, of course, the monster... A Winter Olympics here would be more surprising than seeing a bolt-necked monster roaming the streets, but how would you brand one? WINTER 2030 CITY TWO: BUCHAREST, ROMANIA Romania might strike as more of a summer sport nation, but they have begun to host & bid for winter events too. Plus anything goes in the logo comp - & you really can't do spooky without Romania. Its uniquely unfortunate history gives it TWO of the most terrifying people to rule in Europe, Vlad the Impaler & Nicolae Ceaucescu. And that's before you start on the whole vampire thing. How would you brand a rather different Winter Games? SUMMER 2032 CITY ONE: NEW ORLEANS, USA How could we not? New Orleans might not be one of the cities often talked about when Uncle Sam wants the Olympic rings again, but as the city of voodoo & jazz funerals, it's a true no-brainer for this one. Throw in all its other cultural specialities & it's frankly amazing it's never been here before. No shortage of possibilities, so how would you brand the Games in the Big Easy? SUMMER 2032 CITY 2: CAIRO, EGYPT (Yes, I know they're not technically in Cairo). We've only had one African city in 12 comps, so it's well past time for another visit. And as AFAIK, we've never had an Arab world city either, where better than the largest city of the continent? There's no shortage of design inspiration here, & from the film The Mummy to the curse of Tutankhamun, there's no shortage of spooks either. How would you brand the Games in the Middle East AND Africa? THE RULES/FORMAT We are, as ever, after logos that encompass the overall feel of the city and local influences that can be tied into a design concept. How can any of these cities articulate graphically what they could bring to future Olympics hosting? What flavour will they bring to the games? Will it inspire any of these to actually bid for the damn thing? The logos should be presented as full colour designs on white background. If you like, however, they can also be presented in black and white or utilised in forms like street banners, t-shirts, apps, vehicles, pins etc. For voting purposes, the main (colour) logo will be used on the polls, & extra stuff is not obligatory, but any extra material you produce may help you “sell” your design better to the wider GamesBids voting membership. Spookiness is not obligatory (the cities are the theme, it's a normal comp) but if you wanna go big on the whole 13 thing, nobody will stop you.  These logos are for the cities as they HOST the games. So you CAN use the rings, and don't need to include the words “Candidate City, Olympic Games 2030/32” or whatever the IOC want this week. Please post your preliminary submissions on this thread. If you want to hold anything back to be presented as a “surprise” when voting starts you can contact me or Rols via PM and I'll tell you where you can send the extra material. However, it would be nice to see as many on-thread submissions as possible for people to chew over in-thread, & to try & get the old buzz back. You can submit logos for any of the cities, & anything up to all 4 of them. However, you cannot enter more than one logo for the same city (see below). So entering one logo for each of Darmstadt, New Orleans & Cairo is fine, but two logos for New Orleans, say, is not fine. You are able, encouraged even, to enter for multiple cities. Feel free to post as many logo designs as you like, & to ask for feedback from our famously discerning electorate. If you really can't decide between your own designs for a city, feel free to start a poll (or to ask for one to be started). When the time comes for voting, however, you will be asked to settle on a maximum of ONLY ONE official logo per city as your official entry. The format depends on the numbers. Most likely, it will be the traditional exhausting exhaustive ballot preferred by the IOC, but if numbers fit & opinion ok, we may have the World Cup-style tournament system. Whatever happens, the winter & summer 'halves' will be entirely separate, there will be two winners in the Olympic comp tradition. The competition is open to all members of GamesBids, or to any new legitimate members who join before the end of the submission period. I, with consultation, will rule on the legitimacy of new members. As you would expect, I will rule on any disputes - always aiming to be as fair as possible in the process. As always, just remember, this is all meant to be fun. Olympic spirit, remember?. Hopefully this will spark up some action on the board. I'll be dipping in, keeping a close eye on things, but otherwise will try and keep my green yoshi-paws off until the polling stages. The deadline for submissions is 1pm London time (that is, midnight in Sydney, as per tradition) on NEW YEAR'S EVE, 31 DECEMBER 2019. Thus, GB will begin the new decade & Olympic year 2020 with the voting. And this is just to alert @Rob. to the existence of the new comp in the hope that he'll do his traditional bit of putting up links to various free design programs etc for the benefit of those who want to take part but may not have the facility at the moment. All that is left to say is thank you Rols once again, and to all participants for having the guts to put your logos up for the annual GamesBids dissection, & may the best logos win. There are too many languages involved to do this properly, so I'll just say GOOD LUCK! 
  12. 2 points
    So it’s official: Munich is going to host 2022. Confirmed sports: athletics (Olympiastadion), golf (venue tbc), gymnastics (in new arena in Olympiapark), cycling (track in Olympiahalle as velodrome was torn down some years ago, rest Olympiapark/city), rowing (1972 regatta course), triathlon (Olympiapark). A seventh sport will be added, maybe swimming, but they’re still negotiating. Dates: 11-22 August
  13. 2 points
    Finally we got a clear pic from the inside. Pretty much ready I say.
  14. 2 points
    Really liking the dark mode version of the logo on the website, will be very interesting to see what path they will take when it comes to the look. Definitely a winner with producing a quality Worldmark as well which should work well with the branding. Reasonably pleased with this one.
  15. 2 points
    The IOC, for all its faults, at least didn't sold itself to Qatar and killed off earlier their previous bids to the Olympics.
  16. 2 points
    A bit of a head scratcher but if Doha is serious about this, then the sheikhs may have finally realized an Olympics isn't going to happen and the best they can hope for is the Asian Games (it would be their second go around as the host). As for the IAAF World Championships, it's a disaster. Crowds are sparse and there are serious concerns about the marathon in the humidity. Of course Qatar is blaming everything on the Saudi-led blockade as they do for everything that doesn't go there way these days.
  17. 2 points
    New pictures released today by japanese newspapers. We have clearer shots of the running track. The stadium is officially 98% completed now.
  18. 2 points
    The entire Olympic Village would end up in a Jakarta jail by the end of the games if this went ahead: https://www.sbs.com.au/news/anger-as-indonesia-moves-to-criminalise-sex-outside-marriage
  19. 2 points
    I've often said going to the Olympics is unlike other trips. Usually, you plan out a trip, then decide if you want to go or not. With the Olympics, you decide "I want to go," then fill in whatever details you can get. Are you wiling to take that leap of faith. One thing people might not realize is how much of the "Olympic Spirit" does not involve going to events. As much as I love going to events, they can be a real pain. Lots of logistical headaches, lots of security to deal with, lots of waiting around. Many times is better to watch an event as a bar or "live site" than at the event itself. And, yes, watching in a bar in the host city is different that watching at home. Of course, you do want to go to some events. Of the events you list, Opening Ceremony tickets are very hard to come by. You might get them, but certainly don't count on it. Basketball prelims are usually available at some point, the gold medal match (mens) can be hard. 3x3 basketball tickets keep popping up, so I suspect that will be easier. Hockey is one of the easiest tickets to get. Football is the only sport where I can guarantee you'll be able to get tickets... though no guarantees on the gold medal match. Swimming and Women's gymnastics are some of the tougher tickets to get (and some of the sports that are much better on TV than in person). Beach Volleyball and Men's Handball are usually available. As far as planning, the first thing I always focus on in whether to target the first week or the second. That way I can book tickets and travel plans independently. Think about which events you most want to try for, and then look at the schedule to see when they are held. Lots of accommodations will have minimum stays, required deposits with no refunds. Always nice if you can book someplace that will be refundable, but don't count on it. As I said, you basically need to commit and just go for it. Mainstream hotels will either be completely book, or outrageously expensive. If you want to stay in one of those, either pay the $$$ or wait until the last month or so when they will inevitably free up rooms. The freeing of rooms happens every olympics, but I've never had the guts to wait. I always target non-traditional housing - hostels, dorms, airbnb, etc. Tokyo offers up another option in "businessman" hotels. Finally, there is always the operation of booking something out of town and commuting in. Tokyo has incredible train options for that. Plane tickets is usually the easiest thing to book. Mainstream airlines open up about 330 days ahead of time. Unlike hotels, they don't jack prices sky-high. Just don't count on a deal. Best of luck.
  20. 2 points
    Simple but effective. I like the circle patterns around the logo, which I suppose are a reference to the sun and the whole Land of the Rising sun motif. No one has posted the medals yet with their ribbons and case though, so there you go. https://worldarchery.org/news/172956/tokyo-2020-unveils-olympic-medal-design-celebrate-start-one-year-countdown Japanese ash wood cases, dyed with the same colour as the Olympic emblem, will accompany each medal. Every case will be unique. A closeup of the medals, you can see the relief pattern much better here. The medals resemble rough stones that have been polished and now shine, with light and brilliance as overall themes. They reflect the concept that in order to succeed, athletes have to strive and sacrifice on a daily basis. More than 400 professional designers and students submitted proposals in an open competition. Junichi Kawanishi is responsible for the winning design. “I never dreamed that the design I submitted only as a memorial to this lifetime event would be actually selected,” he said. “With their shining rings, I hope the medals will be seen as paying tribute to the athletes’ efforts, reflecting their glory and symbolising friendship.”
  21. 2 points
    Exactly. The Swedish bid was very weak, but the IOC needed to keep it alive and the SOK gamely went along with it. I don't think you can blame a NOC itself for being willing to bid if the IOC publicly states multiple times that they are willing to accept a low cost games with mostly private funding. And in the end I can't even really blame the IOC's members for not wanting a spread out games requiring ferry rides, night trains or whatever to get around, and for not wanting to wait in limbo to see if the Swedish public and government would pull the rug from under their feet like Denver did. I think the only fair criticism is to say the IOC shouldn't have been disingenuous with the Swedes, and should have been clearer about what they wanted rather than paying constant lip service to "Agenda 2020."
  22. 2 points
    The odd thing is that the big winter IFs (FIS, IBSF, IBU) are run by northern Europeans who may want to see their home countries host someday. (This fact makes it even odder that the Swedes did not recruit one of them to help with the IOC politics; they paid more attention to their internal politics than the constituency that matters.) I also don't think the logistics are a dealbreaker; they just needed better answers (e.g. sleeper trains) than the ones they gave. In PyeongChang people rarely moved same day between the snow and ice clusters, and moving within the snow cluster was hard. Showing expected movement patterns and addressing concerns on things like hotel rooms would have gone a long way. Falling down technically was one of the ways they failed to reassure on risk. If you're going to go spread out at least show how that will work. Helsinki's failed 2006 bid (which proposed Lillehammer as the mountain cluster) had a transport plan involving flying between cluster--not sustainable, perhaps, but they had an answer. Calling yourself the most sustainable bid ever without acknowledging that many stakeholders will be flying was also a mistake; once again, talking mostly to themselves and about their own virtues rather than calling it what it is; Milan Cortina's transport plan is hours on coaches on mountain roads, but they admitted that at least. This all came down to hubris; the Swedes appeared to really think that Agenda 2020 / New Norm meant the IOC was desperate, not that Lausanne wanted its ego to be stroked. The Swedes did not want it badly enough to "do what it takes" politically. That is the issue with the lack of a story. The Brazilians sold themselves as a rising power that had never hosted, and look at where that got the IOC--a disorganised games in the middle of a political crisis. A sports power which has never hosted is not enough of a narrative, but the Swedes really appeared to believe it.
  23. 2 points
    It's quite simple - if the event is going to divert significant financial resources from more pressing public needs then it won't get spent and alternate forms of funding has to be found. This is the right policy for Scandinavia right now. Sweden does not have the budget to spend on big events like Japan, USA, China etc. They saw what Agenda 2020 was allowing and put together a solid plan that would spread the effort across the country and internationally. The IOC had an alternative that while not ideal was at least in the same country and had Governmental support. Sadly the IOC is not as brave as their exhaustive press releases indicate.
  24. 2 points
    She’s probably with AA ATM!
  25. 2 points
    It was Milan’s extravagant shopping that won the day! And boy, AA must be stewing in his own juices, cuz he got yet another one WRONG!
  26. 2 points
    So we really are seeing the end of the Olympic bidding process. Probably for the best in terms of the long-term health of the Movement, when you see the legacies of over-promising around the world. And if Coates is right (obviously there’s the caveat that he is Australian) there’s one thing for sure - Australia will be great hosts, they always are. I imagine this’ll mean Salt Lake 2030 will be confirmed at the same session if they get official quickly enough.
  27. 2 points
    ... and yet neither Melbourne, nor any other Australian city or region is making any moves toward a bid. So let go of Melbourne, they’re not bidding. End of story. I’m a Melbourne resident and I know Melbourne have not yet shown any interest in a bid for 2032 or any other games. We are now in the Agenda 2020 era. A 2032 Brisbane/SE QLD bid has been shown to be very feasible under Agenda 2020. In Australia, only Brisbane and South East Queensland are making any moves ahead of a possible bid.
  28. 2 points
    Some new pics from the official game, showing how the venues will (probably) be dressed up.
  29. 2 points
    Louise Martin interview on BBC radio said that the plan is to announce the 2026 & 2030 hosts at the General Assembly in October 2026 Adelaide 2030 Hamilton no other candidates expressed any interest, so lock them in Paris/LA style
  30. 2 points
    I fail to see why you're all panicking. The chances of this woman or her party ever being elected to the Paris town hall are zilch! She belongs to a far left party called "La France Insoumise" (A Rebellious France) led by a fire breathing demagogue called Jean-Luc Mélenchon who still hasn't lived down the humiliation of having lost a presidential election he was probably the only one to think he could win! This call for a referendum is some last ditch & desperate call for attention. Nobody listens what she has to say and no one cares......
  31. 2 points
    The Mario & Sonic games usually always show more or less the look the games they end up wearing (with some minor changes regarding its arrangement). And I kind of believe it since its pretty much using the Hanabi motif they said would be the main element of the look, which they're also using on the website. Some examples Vancouver 2010 London 2012 Sochi 2014 Rio 2016
  32. 1 point
    That should be the least of the concerns at this point
  33. 1 point
    These coronavirus jokes are starting get really unfunny, the people who made them did not respect the victims of the virus.
  34. 1 point
    Despite this torch relay will be heavily toned down due to Corona, I still want to try to follow it as much as possible. Let's hope for the best. Today was the big day and the ritual was held in Olympia. With no public besides the officials, of course.
  35. 1 point
    They'll find a way to do it. 3rd time's a charm.
  36. 1 point
    It's been a long old road to get here, but we made it! It might not technically be Cairo, but where could be more fitting for the crowning of our new pharoah than the Valley of the Kings here in one of the planet's most ancient cities, LUXOR! We have one aim in mind - to crown the 13th Gamesbids Summer Olympic Logo Comp champion, & since I don't like wasting time, let's introduce the man who's going to do the deed, Egypt's most famous Egyptian - Tutankhamun Omar Sharif Mohamed 'Mo' Salah! Mo: Good evening everyone, very nice to see you. After 5 logos were turned into mummies, only 2 remain. But only one can score the goal, & rise to the top of the league/Giza pyramid. Ony one can be the pharoah, while the other must head to the tomb. Only one can (Get on vith it, I need you back playing ze fussball - Jurgen Klopp). Oh, ok. With no further delay, the champion hieroglyphic of 2020 belongs to: SIR ROLS! Yoshi: Thank you Mr Salah. If you could take your time over getting back to Liverpool, there's a chance Arsenal might keep our unbeaten season record . Yes, it has finally happened. The old adage that those who can, do, & those who can't, organise, has been disproved as Gamesbids' finest wombat, @Sir Rols, takes his very first title. Once again, apologies for the lack of a proper picture with Mo, caused by technical issues, Rols' Mac being broken to be precise. I hope he gets it fixed (Sydney must have an Apple Store, surely), although perhaps it was a curse on his chances before...dur dur duuuuur! Well, it was Comp 13. As for scores, we had 5 votes in the end, & I was narrowly saved from the hell of actually having to make a decision: A: 3. B: 2. Close, but clear. So, that was the lengthened, lowkey, quiet, almost embarrassing but ultimately successful 13th Gamesbids Olympic Logo Comp. I can't tell a lie & say it lived up to the thriving comps of old, but we still had a field, we still had some votes, & ultimately as long as we have those, we have a comp. With that in mind, thank you to everyone who submitted and/or voted in the comp. Of course the main problem is that the forum's raison d'etre has well & truly gone the way of the dodo. But, a champion is still a champion, & this year's spoils belong to @Sir Rols & @paul. And the special thanks this time go to the same people, Rols for the thread-starting, vote getting, venting space as always, & Paul for saving the comp with his making the grids in absence of Rols' Mac. Just please mate, next time, don't leave it so late . So there we go, that's that. If we do this again, if the board still has some life in it, it will be at the same time again, December 2020, & I have plans for us to go on a European odyssey...shut up yoshi, can't say more yet! Until then, congrats again to Rols & Paul, & I'm told the Sphinx has something for us... FAREWELL/توديع - فراق!
  37. 1 point
    Not feeling the US uniforms- except the all white podium suit...all seems a bit like red and white and blue vomit, in a huge array of patterns...US uniforms are usually neat, with a simple clear graphic design and striking...
  38. 1 point
    Dumb Dumb Dumb ....... surely if this was the best you could offer, then dump surfing for the Games. It is hardly a core sport.
  39. 1 point
    So yeah, this just happened. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/dec/09/russia-banned-from-tokyo-olympics-and-football-world-cup?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
  40. 1 point
    Very clever - like the melange of the medal - the flame & The Marianne. Not keen in the font though! Still one the best logos in many a year!
  41. 1 point
    The dots are clearly either the logo or they’re gonna form what forms the logo. Why else would they need all teams in their destinations? I’m pleased they’re doing something big like this though, it wouldn’t be properly French if it wasn’t artsy & slightly odd (see 92/98 ceremonies) :p
  42. 1 point
    Lillehammer does not have a second 10.000+ arena needed for an Olympics and it would be ridiculous for them to build one. Hakons Hall and the Olympic Amphitheatre could host ice hockey at capacities of 10,500 and 7,000 respectively. Gjovik at a smaller capacity of 5,000 could host curling. Oslo already has an indoor arena, a much newer one at that, in Telenor Arena for figure skating and short track (this was the proposed venue for the respective sports in Oslo's aborted 2022 bid). The WOGs have grown in massive size since 1994. Beyond just venues, Lillehammer does not have the transportation infrastructure that Oslo has to handle a WOGs on its own. Then there's the matter of an Olympic Village. I'd imagine Oslo would be much more in need of public housing in a post-Olympics than Lillehammer would.
  43. 1 point
    There was a certain "other" poster here that was rooting hard for that, if nothing else just to rub it in my face that I said it wouldn't happen. Thus is the craptasticness of this website. It was one thing when once upon a time you had American posters and Canadians posters fighting with each other, but at least there was some substance behind it. In contrast with "I'm going to make an argument to oppose you for the sake of being a contrarian because me.. like.. trolling!" I get that there's not much to talk about here these days since we're likely 4 years away from the next Olympic host being determined. And that there's not that much news to be consumed. It is what it is. The funny thing for me is that I love the Olympics a lot more than I love Olympic bidding, but there aren't exactly a lot of forums out there like this. If someone wants to point me to somewhere where they actually treat the Olympics as more than "2 ceremonies and some filler in between" or "let's spend a week analyzing their choice of a color palette for their logo", please let me know!
  44. 1 point
    To be fair, at the time of the 2016 vote, the Brazilian economy was in a better place by the time they hosted. 7 years later, not so much. So there's only so much that the IOC can be blamed for make that decision at the time they did. Yes, the Swedes lacked a narrative, perhaps in part from the fear of putting themselves out there knowing their efforts lacked support. I agree the logistics weren't a huge issue and that the IOC could have gotten behind it if the Swedish organizers and their citizens were backing it.
  45. 1 point
    I would say that the SOK wanted to bid, and has wanted to for decades; it just has not been willing to take on even the domestic political risk to get them, especially since Sochi. The reforms to the bid procedure this week are a clear signal that domestic political risks are the responsibility of the host; if SOK wants these then it needs to build public support. They can take Agenda 2020 into account to make that case to the Swedish public, but they must take on that risk. Recall that Östersund came second for 2002; the evaluation commission for that year was headed by none other than Thomas Bach) They only lost because of the Salt Lake City bribery scandal; this must similarly sting, to be treated as a foil for the Italians. I think they were amateurish and naïve for 2026 but they were taken advantage of somewhat. If the IOC is going to "approach" interested NOCs then it should approach SOK and look at something like a Gothenburg-Lillehammer bid (something like the Oslo 2022 plan but with the Swedish city at the centre and an x2000 tilting train (or similar) connecting the two clusters). This could well mean building nothing new apart from the Olympic Villages. They need ideas like this and a proper narrative (beyond low taxpayer funding) to sell to the public. I also think that they should go for this sooner rather than later.
  46. 1 point
    Sweden is running a large budget surplus, and has been for years. Its state could easily afford the Games--certainly much more than the Italian one; Swedish voters did not want to pay for this and it would rather that their government be debt-free (given the rate at which they are paying debt down is a real possibility soon). Not saying Sweden has no problems, but a lack of money isn't one of them. Sweden appears to lack the elite culture that makes getting the Olympics a high political priority. The Games are something local and national elites do to make a statement--to show the world that they can organise and stage the world's most logistically challenging event and marshal support for this. Swedes, arguably, don't feel the need to make a statement, unlike (say) the Milanese, who want to step out of Rome's shadow. (Anyone remember Expo 2015?). This felt more like "why not?" than "why so?" London's 2012 bid had lower public support than Paris, which they countered through having a better narrative and superior elite-IOC engagement; Stockholm just said they never hosted and that their bid ticked the Agenda 2020/New Norm boxes. That's...clearly not enough. After the 2022 failure I'm mostly surprised that the SOK didn't learn any lessons. They did not get a real sports politician to front the bid; hire the right consultants early; create a narrative of "why?"; do public engagement; or, when Stockholm City Council became difficult, throw the city under the bus and build a case around Gothenburg (or another city). CONI's dumping of Torino should have been a sign of ruthlessness and a willingness to do what it takes to win. Maybe that is the real story here--that they don't want it badly enough. The journalists who went on the evaluation visit said that the bid would have been workable, just that the Swedish public had little idea it was going on and was largely indifferent. Sweden hosts lots of world championships without it being big that big a deal, and this was treated no differently. That the Olympics are different is what Swedes need to admit to themselves.
  47. 1 point
    I hope they dump that plan and have all 4 ceremonies at San Siro Stadium they can have another 235,000 more ticket sales for the ceremonies if they have it all at San Siro Stadium.
  48. 1 point
    I think the Swedish government just let their Olympic/sporting community have a little fun in presenting and "backing" the bid so half-heartedly. It just didn't build the critical mass that the Italians were able to build (even to the point of pushing aside their last big-city Olympic host, Torino, just so Milano could finally add the nomenclature "Olympic City" to its resume). Rome finally allowed that opportunity since Milano had always been a frustrated Summer wannabee (and which slot CONI has always reserved for Rome).
  49. 1 point
    Finally we got the mascots with the sports disciplines. https://i.imgur.com/NhO3QN1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/N3TZ6ck.jpg https://i.imgur.com/gRinyTQ.jpg if you wanna see them in better quality go here: https://news.mynavi.jp/photo/article/20190401-800077/images/028l.jpg
  50. 1 point
    It's sad the US never invested in a modern train system. I took an Amtrack train from Florida to Houston almost 14 years ago for a school trip and it was probably the worst traveling experience I ever had. It took longer than it would if you had driven, and the train itself wobbled so badly I thought any moment now we were going to de-rail. There is discussion of building a fast-speed train in Texas that will go from Houston to Dallas that will go a minimum of 200mph. Hope it happens.
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