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  1. Malawi, Lesotho, Tuvalu, Bhutan, Suriname, Palau, Brunei, Bahrain, Laos, South Sudan
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  2. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say Beijing 2022 will be a complete disaster for China if they don't sort this out soon. The IOC won't be able to maintain careful neutrality and stave off protests from athletes over this. And I suspect many, many athletes will want to protest. 'Complex' issues around human rights/politics are one thing, but disappearing an athlete has the potential to cause the mother of all storms and be THE sole talking point of Beijing 2022. Every press conference, many podium ceremonies, interviews etc. And there'll be no way to talk round it, none of the IOC's usual guff about their presence having a positive long-term impact will wash. The IOC will have to side with the athletes and, I suspect, drop bans on protests. In short, if she's ok China needs to prove it. This will hugely escalate if not.
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  3. ^^ I don't know what evidence you have for that. Birmingham was the British candidate for 1992 and Manchester for 1996 and 2000. Neither city came higher than third. Many of the 128 members of the International Olympic Committee (IOC), who will make the decision, have emphasised that only London would stand a chance in future. As one said when Manchester lost to Sydney: “We will know you’re serious when you come back with London.” I'm not making (or attempting to make) any judgement on Manchester's capability but the IOC repeatedly rejected UK cities that aren't London and bit our hand off as soon as London was offered upsetting repeat bidder and strong favourite Paris. 2020 was not a bid race conducted under the "new norm" rules, so I don't know why you'd think Manchester (in a world where London 2012 didn't happen) would have a chance against Tokyo. Whether a city like Manchester has a chance in future with the new rules is a more interesting question. But to suggest any UK city but London could've won in recent decades is fanciful.
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  5. Actually, the whole Peng story can develop into something super embarrassing for the (so far silent) IOC. WTA has given some strong statements already and don‘t seem willing to bow to Chinese efforts to keep this under the rug. Of course this will not lead to a „full boycott“, but it adds yet another topic to the list of issues we might get unwanted (by IOC and China) comments/protests by athletes about.
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  6. Ballroom Dance. (If ridiculous Paris 2024 can have "Breaking," why can't LA, the entertainment capital of the world, have Ballroom Dance?)
    2 points
  7. Im hoping to be eternally hopeful on this one because I really want to see it. Brain says no, heart says yes
    2 points
  8. Cake-decorating it is.
    2 points
  9. I was on the tier right above Juan Antonio and the gang on the front railing....best seats in the house! However, my new digital camera failed about 5 minutes in and I got no pics...not to worry there are pics and videos everywhere now, and I could concentrate on the show! I caught the train in from my house hosting 12 people!
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  10. I was at the Opening too...best night of my life!
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  11. They might get Japan. That's not a given. Salt Lake getting an Olympics in the 2030s is a virtual certainty. If the USOPC had their way, it would be for 2034, but obviously that presumes the IOC has a 2030 host. We'll see what the Japanese appetite is for another Olympics so soon after Tokyo, and I imagine more than a few people will be watching Beijing in a couple of months to see how that goes, know that it'll be an unusual Olympics for a number of reasons. Hard to imagine any cities emerging for either of those 2, particularly if the IOC is looking at more backroom deals. We'll see how things look 2.5 years from now when hopefully for the IOC that the "genocide games" as some want to call them is a distant memory and they're only looking ahead at a brighter future. I'm sure there's some sentiment within the IOC to just these Olympics over with and hope they can move on. But like I said, all the IOC ever needs is 1 willing and capable partner every 4 years. They haven't failed at that yet, so there's little reason to think they're in grave danger at any point in the foreseeable future.
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  12. Particularly on a website decided to Olympic host bidding, let's not be ignorant to history here. We didn't get another Olympics in Beijing because they ticked boxes or because the IOC really wanted to partner up with a communist country. There were more than a few cities interested in bidding for 2022. The IOC scared nearly all of them off, in large part because of the recency of Sochi and their massively expensive Olympics, but also because of the miles long list of demands the IOC wants to impose on the host city/country. We know pretty definitively that's why Oslo dropped out, which is a shame, because that would have likely been another amazing Olympics. So that left the IOC with a giant douche and a turd sandwich in Beijing and Almaty. And it was a 44-40 final vote. If just 3 Beijing voters have a change of heart that day, we're not having this discussion (although we're probably having a different discussion as it relates to Kazakhstan). The moral of the story here being that let's not paint a picture of the IOC that they were really gung ho to return to Beijing and to partner with China. Nearly half of the IOC voters didn't want that, and I'm sure in hindsight, many of those 44 who advocating for Beijing probably regret that decision. We all know the IOC wants to play it both ways.. when things are good, they'll claim credit for the Olympic movement. When they aren't good, they'll avoid any notion that they can do anything for the cause of human rights. That all said.. Shanghai 2036? No shot after the trail of bad press the IOC is going to leave in their wake here, unless China does a complete 180 in the next decade, and we all know that's not going to happen. As the story goes and what we saw with 2032 is that the IOC only needs 1 willing partner that they want to work with. And then they can ignore the rest for whatever reason they want. Literally the only way Shanghai is even a thought in their minds would be for no other cities to be interested, which undoubtedly would include a lot of begging from the IOC for someone to come in and save their collective asses. As for Agenda 2020.. the whole purpose of that direction for the IOC isn't to find an ideal candidate, but rather for cities to be more open and less rigid about what they are allowed to offer up. If Italy offered up their Milan-Cortina bid for 2006 with venues spread over the country, they probably wouldn't have won. But in the age of agenda 2020, they get consideration they wouldn't have 2 decades ago. Agenda 2020 doesn't help a city like Shanghai if China can't help themselves and will spend extravagant amounts of money to make it happen. That's literally the antithesis of what Agenda 2020 is supposed to be about. The silver lining for the IOC is that once they're through this fiasco, they have 4 future hosts locked in with France, Italy, the United States, and Australia. It's been a long time since the future Olympics calendar hasn't included the likes of a China or a Russia or a new frontier country like Brazil. So they have an opportunity to salvage their reputation if 2 years is enough time before Paris for the world to forget everything that's happened in the last 20 months. Easier said than done, but that's why if we're talking about future summer hosts, the time for that discussion is likely years down the road
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  13. From what I read, the figure skating schedule is a compromise.. NBC gets about half of the figure skating events in the morning in Beijing so they can be show in primetime in the US. As Karenina noted, most of that is in the 1st week. The majority of the 2nd week of figure skating is at night, which is obviously better for Asian and European audiences. Noteworthy here is that ice dance free dance was moved to the morning of 2/14 in Beijing, which means the last groups will get shown on NBC after the Super Bowl (it's been confirmed that will be NBC's lead-out program from the Super Bowl, they won't have an episode of a series there, first time in 46 years that's happened)
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  14. Personally, I have not really cared for any Winter Games medal design since Innsbruck 64 and 76. 1988 was the last sort of traditional medal shape, after that we get crazy glass and bagel medals.
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  15. Just FYI: according to their coalition agreement in the “sports” chapter, the incoming German government (social democrats/green/(neo-)liberals) pledges support for future Olympic bids, provided there is timely involvement/participation of the public. In other words: if a bid wants government support, it needs to hold a referendum, as I understand it.
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  16. Brisbane Olympics 2032: Qld to be events capital of Australia
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  17. Ukraine Update: U.S. Intel Shows Russia Troops Ready for Large-Scale Attack - Bloomberg If the IOC hasn't told Ukraine no by now . . . then maybe Putin can pull a double, 2030 Lviv and 2036 St. Petersburg
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  18. I do not know the reason why some seats are removed contemporarily. As for the plate of 1964,it is installed permanently where people cannot easily find.
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  19. ^Yeah, & that's what pretty much started the whole, "present us (the IOC) with ONLY your glamour, global capital cities for the Olympic Games" trend. Even for the domestic 2012 U.S. nominee race, the beta & gamma cities of Dallas, Houston & Cincinnati, etc. were easily bypassed by the USOC in favor of NYC. For the 2020 race, the IOC was still in the era of, "give us your best-foot forward city you got on the table" faze. So no, in a hypothetical 2020 race where Manchester was also a candidate, I still see Tokyo handily winning 2020. I'd even go as far as saying, that Manchester may not have even made the short-list for that race. Even with the "new norm" bidding rules, I'd still question whether or not the IOC was serious about beta & gamma cities. The election of Brisbane certainly makes a case now for such cities, but I'd also still question the IOC's likelihood of continuing such a trend, when most of us know the real circumstances of the 2032 "race".
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  20. Peng Shuai: IOC accused of ‘publicity stunt’ over video call https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/nov/22/peng-shuai-wta-says-chinese-tennis-stars-call-with-ioc-chief-is-not-enough
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  21. My initial thought reading Dan Roan's tweet was this is excellent, but the write-up on the Olympic site is bizarre. I really don't know what to make of it. It certainly hasn't resolved things.
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  22. So this confirms that Bach is really just a puppet on Xi’s strings. It does not mean a thing when it comes to Peng’s real fate.
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  23. Yeah. You don;t need to do that. It’s superfluous, especially when it’s so obviously a spam post. I may not be on constantly, but I do check in regularly several times each day. I’ll terminate them with extreme prejudice when I notice them. What happened in this case was i clicked on the thread to flag it, but instead of flagging the original spammer, I ended up flagging the last poster on it - unfortunately, you. Don’t worry about it in the future - I believe any acknowledgement of such spamming just gives them oxygen, and it avoids such stuff-ups as this in the future. Don’t worry, me or one of the other mods will notice and zap. Unfortunately, that’s beyond my user privileges. You’d have to request GBModerator. I don’t know if it’s technically possible or not. Cross fingers. Wish you a speedy recovery from Covid. Hang in there.
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  24. That may have been my fault. I was deleting some spam counterfeit passport threads the other day and I accidentally flagged AustralianFan as the spammer. Only GBModerator could undo that. I do apologise profusely to @AustralianFan, sorry for that and hope it didn’t cause you too much anguish. So sorry if it also deleted any of your posts. And thanks for reporting spam, but in future DO NOT POST ON ANY OF THOSE THREADS. It can cause all sorts of probs if you do. You don’t need to tell them they’ve been reported and we’ll find them anyway - they’re not exactly subtle.
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  25. Actually, Greece couldn't play the 'we are owed' card for '96, since they didn't really have any failed bids, at that point, under their belt to make such a claim for. What they played was the "we have an absolute RIGHT to host the Centennial Olympics, because we are the 'birthplace' of the Olympic Games, & you better damn well give it to us" card. I'd also further say, that many candidates in the past, have played the "we *deserve* to host the Olympics" card based on X or Y factor (i.e. Beijing 2008, Rio 2016. And India wants to play their X-factor now, too, for 2036). But if any city is "owed" an Olympics due to the number of failed bis that they have had, then that honor goes to the darling of all failed bids, Istanbul. The always a bridesmaid, but never a bride candidate. But to downright demand (i.e. Athens 1996), or being cocky & putting down your opponents (i.e. Rome 2004) or claim that you are "owed" (i.e. Spain) an Olympics, will always get you nowhere.
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  26. Looks really nice lit up in red.
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  27. I think the IOC is more than ready to do that for them. Their silence indicates as such. After the Olympics you'll hear some token statements about human rights and the Olympics but I just don't see any retribution coming China's way. If anything the more time that passes, the better for China unfortunately especially in the day of social media where what's trending changes on a dime. When the curtain rises on the opening ceremonies I would bet this will be pushed by the wayside and the athletes will be told it is not up to discussion or protest. This situation reminds me a lot of the Saudi Arabia-Jamal Khashoggi saga and he was murdered in a Saudi embassy on audio and while there was some protest it died down quickly. Meanwhile the likes of the OCA have no issue with KSA hosting major sporting events.
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  28. completely agreed there. I cannot think of anyone besides Japan successfully pulling that off the way that they did. The IOC was extraordinarily fortunate that they awarded a games to Tokyo. It absolutely was the best case scenario under the circumstances
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  29. Seeing as the other thread is a newsfeed 'retweet' dominated by one particular member, I thought it could be good to have a separate thread that is inviting for all to all to discuss the basics of the Games as they evolve over the years.
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  30. The format for the women's tournament is that the 5 best teams are in Group A and the 5 lesser teams are in group B. Every team from Group A gets a spot in the quarterfinals, joined by the top 3 from Group B. This is all by design. There's no "group of death" scenario here. And the main reason they do it that way is so there will be more games between the top teams, including a guaranteed USA-Canada game. They're not going to add the 11th and 12th best women's hockey teams to the tournament where it's the US and Canada, Finland generally the 3rd best team, and then there's everyone else. It's not like they'd use the men's format of 3 groups of 4 teams because it's even harder to do it in tiers then. 10 teams is where they're likely to stay
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  31. The Zaha Hadid stadium was an ugly expensive monstrosit so I'm glad they went with something more reasonable.
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  32. Empty seats in Beijing might be the best thing to happen for Sapporo 2030... never underestimate the desire in both China and Japan to outdo the other one. Why do you think Tokyo initially decided on a stadium that was impossible to build?
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  33. Interesting about that Polish luger… Chinese censoring already warming up too: https://twitter.com/tomaszsajewicz/status/1458003408678363139?s=21
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  34. From Baron’s post of the Inside The Games article, World Rowing has approved the shorter, narrower Long Beach venue for flat-water rowing subject to examination of the effects of tides there and approvals from the Long Beach City Council. I understand the 1932 Long Beach venue can only fit 7 lanes and not the usual 8 Olympic rowing lanes. Coastal rowing as new competitions also look to be going ahead in Long Beach.
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  35. Looks needlessly complicated when you think doesn't the Spurs stadium just shove the whole pitch under the big stand? Useful though if you can turn the Bernabeu into two huge indoor arenas - maybe put a roof on Spurs and you could do the same . I guess this would host basketball and gymnastics at a Madrid Olympics, just a shame you can't stuff an athletics track in there...
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  36. Sounds good news. New national stadium will be open with pre-reservation on every Sundays and national holidays until mid of next month.
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  37. My bad. I just assume that everyone can view a few free articles each month. There are 2. But China isn't too thrilled to entertain Canadian-Chinese or American-Chinese in their ranks. They have a very xenophobic zeitgeist now, and of course, they can't wait to get their bloody hands on Taiwan too. From the article. . . Also, re that "Strength, Love Courage" video, it was made before the IIHC has decided to act on China's chances in the men's tournament. I think they will keep their team, regardless of results, just to save face.
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  38. Estanguet pledges to "answer all questions" on Paris 2024 city-centre Opening Ceremony plans
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  39. There will not be 63 figure skaters in Beijing for Russia, even including alternates. At most there will be 36 - 3 alternates/teams for each discipline. Like I explained earlier, that list is who was nominated by their respective national sports federations as potential Olympic athletes. And, no, Russia is not strong in all winter sports - they're decidedly weak in alpine skiing, as an example. Did you look at the list of nominated athletes? There weren't more than twenty or so in alpine skiing.
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  40. Well, this certainly isn't all that surprising, since the COC never really was backing it. And this further little tidbit only reinforces that there's really no other viable suitors, since Barcelona & Sapporo are also still very iffy, & what I think (as I mentioned back in the 2030 "contingency" thread a couple of weeks ago), that it wouldn't surprise me in the least now, that the USOC & IOC will very much try & work out a deal in their "meeting" next month with SLC, & probably announce it by Beijing 2022. The IOC is in no mood to 'gamble' these days (as demonstrated with 2032 already) & are likely just anxious now to close this (2030) deal asap.
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  41. I don't think it's misleading at all. You're not reading it right. The article & the way it's worded are for the possible No-Olympix people and their supporters who will shout that "new contruction again will be required" for another round of hosting. The article DIRECTLY addresses that -- including apparently Univ. of Utah's dorms which it seems are now enough to host 3,000+ athletes.
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  42. But they’re not negotiating anything are they? The 2026 Commonwealth Games are now only 5 years away. The normal lead-in time from host announcement to Com Games is 7 years. An emergency Host is now needed for 2026. Do you have any recent evidence, examples or announcments by the NSW Government in this regard? Has the NSW Government recently announced that they are actually negotiating or organising an emergency Commonwealth Games in 2026? It would be political death for the NSW State Government if they were to launch into an emergency Commonwealth Games bid right now. They are already being blamed by the elctorate for taking too long to lockdown at the start of this massive outbreak. Perth 2026 As far as Perth’s capability goes, you’re way out of date. Things have come a long way since they hosted the CW Games in 1962. Athletics/Ceremonies - Optus Stadium - 60,000 - has the best and newestbhigh tech stadium in the whole country and last might hosted the AFL Grand Final to a capacity crowd. Design and dimensions enables mode switch to athletics. Aquatics/Swimming/Diving - Perth Superdrome complex - has hosted the FINA World Swimming Championships twice at the Superdrome Aquatic complex facilities in 1991 and 1998. Used 15,000 capacity temporary grandstands as in CWG 2018 Gold Coast Badminton - Perth Badminton Arena Basketball - WA Basketball Centre Beach Volleyball - Scarborough Beach Boxing - Perry Lakes Basketball Stadium Cricket T20 - WACA Cycling Track - SpeedDome velodrome Gymnastics - Perth Arena - 15,500 large hi-tech large CBD arena which hosts NBL Team Perth Wildcats,and Tennis tournaments Hockey - Perth Hockey Stadium Judo - at one of a number of indoor community sports centres ,similar to CWG 2018 Gold Coast Lawn Bowls - North Perth Lawn Bowls Centre Mountain Biking - Kalamunda Mountain Bike Park Netball - State Netball Centre Rugby Sevens - Joondalup Arena Shooting - Whiteman Park Squash - The Squash Factory Table Tennis - at one of a number of indoor community sports centres ,similar to CWG 2018 Gold Coast Triathlon - Swan River, Kings Park Weightlifting - Perth Concert Hall Wrestling - at one of a number of indoor community sports centres ,similar to CWG 2018 Gold Coast
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  43. Tokyo Olympics Opening Ceremony left us an unforgettable moment that must be taken in consideration for future ceremonies: “The Viral moment”. There has been a huge reaction in Japan to this segment and they have created countless viral videos recreating it. Here I share some of them I found the funniest. Enjoy!
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  44. The video I was waiting for: the behind the scenes of the ceremony… After watching this I can infer: - 5:10 “17 days to go and there’s still a lot to do”… what should confirm us that it DID was an improvised ceremony… - 8:13 The solitaire men walking outside the stadium at the moment the fireworks explode remind me how sad it was… No cheers, no emotions… - “Viva” was the documentary that showed us how the ceremony in Rio was created and ot lasted about 40 minutes. Here in just 10 minutes they show us how the preparation of this ceremony was… I think, more minutes can just take out to the light the internal argues that led us to this “funeral ceremony” we witnessed. - Anyway, part of the original soundtrack of the ceremony is heard. Hope to be released one day. (I love the original music of the “wooden rings”)
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  45. Oh my. He's pretty tasty. :-P
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  46. Hamilton Commonwealth Games committee abandons any bid for 2026 Games, looks to 2030 https://www.thespec.com/sports/hamilton-region/opinion/2021/04/14/hamilton-commonwealth-games-committee-abandons-any-bid-for-2026-games-looks-to-2030.html Back to the future: it’s Hamilton100 again. That’s 100 as in the year 2030, the 100th anniversary of the Commonwealth Games. The local bid for the 2026 Games has been abandoned. The Spectator has learned that the private consortium hoping to bring the Games to Hamilton, where they started in 1930, will concentrate solely on bidding for the 2030 Games after shifting — at the request of the Games’ national and international governing bodies — last year to bid for first, 2026, and later 2027. Lou Frapporti of Hamilton100 Commonwealth Games Bid Corporation confirmed Tuesday night that “we had been asked to pivot (last fall, to a plan for a possible year-delayed Games for 2027) and worked hard on it, but the process has been aborted. “Having deliberated on it, we are not interested in attempting to pivot to 2027 and resolve to focus back on, and win, 2030.” Frapporti told The Spectator that the renewed bid for 2030 will be an amalgam of elements from the original 2030 concept — approved by the province and City Council in 2019 — and the restructured bid for a cheaper, more-regionalized 2026 Games, which would have significantly reduced the number of events and athletes. The 2026 bid was repositioned as a post-pandemic economic recovery strategy. Because COVID-19 had silenced all other potential bidders, Hamilton was essentially guaranteed to host if the local committee could get the necessary agreements from all three levels of government. Frapporti isn’t releasing any specific details of the restructured 2030 bid other than that “affordable housing will remain from the 2026 plan as the central legacy and impact strategy for 2030. It wasn’t part of the original 2030 bid. “I’m disappointed we couldn’t get 2026 delivered but having said that, I’m excited. We are now back to a full centenary Games and we can do it to the nines. We have enough time.” The provincial government announced last October it would support funding for Commonwealth Games in Hamilton “in 2027 and beyond” but not for 2026. The local committee was then asked to consider planning for a potential 2027 Games, which it did. But the Commonwealth Games Federation (CGF), headquartered in London, England, is doggedly determined to try to keep on cycle with a 2026 Games. So when the provincial government, through Commonwealth Sport Canada, recently reaffirmed that it would support a Hamilton bid only for 2027 or later, the writing was on the wall for Hamilton. The CGF has received new and varying degrees of international interest in 2026, including a suggestion from influential publisher David Black that Victoria, B.C. could host the Games then. On Tuesday morning, Brian MacPherson CEO of Commonwealth Sport Canada (CSC) confirmed that, other than to help with questions about 2030, the international federation is no longer involved in what had been months of frequent meetings via video conference or by phone with representatives of the bid committee, the city, and the CSC. And the CSC is also meeting less often with the local group, and then only to work on 2030. “We won’t talk about 2027 unless the CGF gives some kind of sign that they’ll entertain that,” MacPherson told The Spectator. “And at this point they’re not. They’ve made it clear they want Games in 2026 and I agree with it.” There has been reported new interest in hosting 2026 from several areas, including Australia, India and Sri Lanka. But Australian cities are now in the running for the 2032 Summer Olympics, so that would likely eliminate that country. “Exploring is probably the best word for it,” MacPherson said of the inquiries around 2026. Like the international body works in advance with potential host bidders — before, rather than after, their formal bids are presented — the national body has been advising Victoria interests and stressing how much commitment is needed from municipalities, provincial governments, citizens, community and sports leaders. “Our stance is that we’ll empower any group out there with the information they need so they can make informed decisions,” he said. “We’re not out to hurt anybody’s aspirations but aspirations have to be backed up by solid, facts, figures and work.” He suggested that Hamilton’s rejuvenated 2030 bid — it is still the one that the CSC officially backs for the centenary Games — is well down all those roads. Of course if Victoria can assemble a workable bid quickly enough to convince the international federation to go there for 2026, that would ruin Hamilton’s chance at 2030. Frapporti agrees and his committee is aiming to finalize its 2030 bid by early next year. The CGF could award the 2030 Games sometime in 2023.
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