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In Topic: American Track Athlete Lashinda Demus: “we know that we’re competing in a dyi...

15 May 2012 - 08:09 PM

View PostTexas, on 14 May 2012 - 10:37 PM, said:

Track and field is not dying overseas, only in the United States. It's the only sport in America without a homegrown superstar. The closet one is Allyson Felix as she has the attractiveness, and talent to be marketed as the face of the sport in the United States. The problems though are that she has no individual gold medals and uncertainty about whether or not she will be in Rio in four years (she'll be 31 when Rio starts).

Felix is a three time world champion over 200m. Whilst not an Olympic champion yet, this may well change in London this year.I think U.S track and field is making more effort to market her now.

Athletics is one of the world's great sports -- the mother sport if you like. But in an American context, it doesn't generate the big bucks like other traditional American sports. With baseball for example, people grow up rooting for their fave players, going to matches, buying memorabilia etc. The sport becomes part of everyday culture. But with athletics, that simply cannot happen. And in American society, the most savvy consumer driven society in the world, athletics doesn't quite gel with the people in the way other sports do.

I think the U.S is actually fielding better athletics teams now than it did in the past -- by that I mean it has more depth in events outwith the sprints.

In Topic: Glasgow 2014

09 May 2012 - 09:28 AM

View Postintoronto1125, on 08 May 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

Is the first image of the indoor arena?

Yes. The arena has retractable seating on the bottom and also has a hydraulic athletics track which can be lowered so that the arena is used for hall sports such as badminton.

In Topic: Argentina Stoking anti-UK sentiments?

08 May 2012 - 01:37 PM

View Postzekekelso, on 08 May 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

You cannot simultaneously argue that " Jesse Owens in Berlin was arguably the greatest moment in Olympic history" and that he did nothing more than participate in a track meet. I don't mean to minimize 4 gold medals in one Olympics. That might qualify for top 50 Olympic performances. Maybe even top 25. But viewed strictly as an athletic performance, there is simply no possible way to argue it as being "the greatest."

You argue it's the greatest moment because it did have implications, meaning and messaging far beyond the track. Even if he didn't intend it, even if he didn't want it, it did. You must know it has greater meaning; otherwise you wouldn't have put it at the top of the list. What exactly are you objecting so strongly to?

Indeed.

The fact that Jesse Owens is viewed so well isn't just because of his great athletic prowess but because of the context in which he triumphed.

It could be argued that Carl Lewis's 4-gold-medal haul in '84 was superior to Owens's if you understand that Jesse Owens required help in the long jump competition from German competitor to correct his run up and thus win. But the reason most people I suspect would put Jesse Owen's performance above Carl Lewis's is because of the circumstances surrounding Owens's wins.

In Topic: Glasgow 2014

08 May 2012 - 09:29 AM

Velodrome and indoor arena update:

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In Topic: Argentina Stoking anti-UK sentiments?

08 May 2012 - 09:19 AM

View PostCanisMinor, on 08 May 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

Well, since the British Citizens in the north of Great Britain and moanin' about being citizens, I suggest that the UK gives Argentina Scotland if they finally stop asking for the Falklands. Problem solved.

I suggest you find out how politics work. That way, you'll understand that the UK can't give away anything -- especially not one of the FOUNDING countries of the United Kingdom.

Your comment, meant to be funny (and it will be received as such by several of the noted bigots here) in fact just illustrates your stupidity and cultural ignorance on the topic.Amen.