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In Topic: Oslo 2022
27 April 2012 - 04:14 PM
Blacksheep, on 27 April 2012 - 04:34 AM, said:
I am surprised this is not the favourite for 2022. I know Lillehammer was only in 1994, but Oslo ticks so many of the IOCs boxes I am struggling to think of where the weak points are.
- Huge distances
- Fog
- Public support
- Decreasingly reliable snow conditions in Oslo
- Small market compared with e.g. Germany
In Topic: Munich 2022
27 April 2012 - 04:07 PM
Welcome Blacksheep!
(not to be confused with the obscure far northern Norway group Blacksheeps I have always wondered whether the spelling error is deliberate or not...)
Strange, and which candidate would supposedly be any stronger? I can't think of any.
(not to be confused with the obscure far northern Norway group Blacksheeps I have always wondered whether the spelling error is deliberate or not...)
munichfan, on 27 April 2012 - 02:44 PM, said:
You'd say that. But almost all newspapers writing about a future Munich bid explain that so-called "experts" told them that Munich wouldn't stand any reasonable chance.
In Topic: Oslo 2022
17 March 2012 - 07:22 AM
oslo2022, on 16 March 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:
All right maybe I missed when it comes to when the fog appears in march (with temperatures changing all the time, the same with the amount of snow in the area).
Oslos national bid for the 2018 games stated the following about the fog:
http://www.webcitation.org/5xNssOMuV page 9.
"Dagens og fremtidens teknologiske løsninger innen telekommunikasjon
og TV-overføringer er bekreftet å kunne fungere under alle typer værforhold
som kan forventes i Oslo i februar.
Værstatistikk for østlandsområdet viser at februar er den vintermåneden
med lavest forekomst av tåke og med svært rolige vindforhold.
I Oslo er februar den vakreste vintermåneden. Alt ligger til rette for
at oppsatte sendeskjemaer holdes og at verden får de TV-bildene
den forventer."
"The current and future technology solutions within telecommunications
and television transmissions are confirmed to operate under all weather conditions
that can be expected in Oslo in February.
Weather statistics for the eastern part of Norway shows that February is the winter month
with the lowest incidence of fog and with very calm wind conditions.
In Oslo, February is the most beautiful month of the winter. In other words every thing would be secured that
the scheduled broadcast times are kept and that the world gets the TV images
it demands."
Oslos national bid for the 2018 games stated the following about the fog:
http://www.webcitation.org/5xNssOMuV page 9.
"Dagens og fremtidens teknologiske løsninger innen telekommunikasjon
og TV-overføringer er bekreftet å kunne fungere under alle typer værforhold
som kan forventes i Oslo i februar.
Værstatistikk for østlandsområdet viser at februar er den vintermåneden
med lavest forekomst av tåke og med svært rolige vindforhold.
I Oslo er februar den vakreste vintermåneden. Alt ligger til rette for
at oppsatte sendeskjemaer holdes og at verden får de TV-bildene
den forventer."
"The current and future technology solutions within telecommunications
and television transmissions are confirmed to operate under all weather conditions
that can be expected in Oslo in February.
Weather statistics for the eastern part of Norway shows that February is the winter month
with the lowest incidence of fog and with very calm wind conditions.
In Oslo, February is the most beautiful month of the winter. In other words every thing would be secured that
the scheduled broadcast times are kept and that the world gets the TV images
it demands."
What we do know, is that fog is an issue to larger (Holmenkollen) and smaller degree for the whole Oslo area, so important, that it was decisive when a location for the new airport was chosen far north of Oslo. According to the largest Norwegian encyclopedia, Tryvann, very close to Holmenkollen, has fog 20 % of the time (year-round), and that most of the fog appears in the winter. Again, no clue where they got these "facts" from.
BTW, I do not contest that telecommunications and TV cameras work even if it is foggy, but it does not help, when the judges cannot see the ski jumpers, the biathlonists cannot see what they are aiming at, and the viewers get images like this:
(webcam from Holmenkollen).
More webcams from ski areas in Oslo can be found here:http://www.catalyzer.no/
Images like this would make a WOG a catastrophy for Norway's winter wonderland image and tourist industry, which is sad because fog is not really an issue in most of the country.
