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[cfm Jeremie]

james, on May 21 2008, 08:06 PM, said:

If only you agree with me that development is prosperity and advancement.

You can check up the post #290 in this link:

http://www.gamesbids.com/forums/index.php?...9686&st=280

You keep mixing things up.

To host the Games, a city / country needs to have basic infrastructure in place. By that I mean, a solid transport backbone, telecommunication infrastructure, accommodation, good health and security organisations... The Games wont' bring all this: they simply don't have that kind of "power".

What the Games can do on the other hand is speeding up already defined development plans for specific areas of a city: that what we have seen in Barcelona and Athens for example, and what we should see in London.

The 2-step bidding process is aimed at selecting during the first phase the cities that have the basic infrastructure (or will have with no great risk within the next 7 years) needed to stage such an event.
During the second phase, it's up to each individual IOC members to use whatever criteria he/she may want to decide which city he/she considers the better choice (one of these criteria could be what kind of legacy a city would get, in which city the Games would have the greatest impact...).

[james]

cfm Jeremie, on May 21 2008, 04:19 PM, said:

You keep mixing things up.

To host the Games, a city / country needs to have basic infrastructure in place. By that I mean, a solid transport backbone, telecommunication infrastructure, accommodation, good health and security organisations... The Games wont' bring all this: they simply don't have that kind of "power".

What the Games can do on the other hand is speeding up already defined development plans for specific areas of a city: that what we have seen in Barcelona and Athens for example, and what we should see in London.

The 2-step bidding process is aimed at selecting during the first phase the cities that have the basic infrastructure (or will have with no great risk within the next 7 years) needed to stage such an event.
During the second phase, it's up to each individual IOC members to use whatever criteria he/she may want to decide which city he/she considers the better choice (one of these criteria could be what kind of legacy a city would get, in which city the Games would have the greatest impact...).

Lol! Hahaha...you are explaining this in circle. Like begging the question.

[cfm Jeremie]

james, on May 21 2008, 10:27 PM, said:

Lol! Hahaha...you are explaining this in circle. Like begging the question.

And once again, proving that not only you don't have a clue about what you are talking about but also that you will make no effort to think and try to understand...

If you can't understand the difference between having the minimum required infrastructure and needing to redevelop a part of a city, then it's your loss.

[james]

cfm Jeremie, on May 21 2008, 11:32 PM, said:

And once again, proving that not only you don't have a clue about what you are talking about but also that you will make no effort to think and try to understand...

If you can't understand the difference between having the minimum required infrastructure and needing to redevelop a part of a city, then it's your loss.

In a whole, what is the end result?

[arwebb]

That depends on where you start.

[Rafa]

New Stadium Wrap

Following the recommendation by CABE to expose the temporary elements of the stadium rather than hide them, the stadium wrap has been adjusted to expose elements of temporary nature of the stadium.

[daveypod-less]

Im not a fan of doing that with the wrap. I liked the simplicity of it before, now it looks messy. I thought they would use a material so the structure would be visible through it anyway with a stunning design that completely encircles the stadia. Much like the Imax cinema in London.

I also thought then they would not only have static imigary but also project imigary, films, and text of it. How awesome would it look if as the cauldron was lit on the inside of the stadium, flames were projected onto the outside on the wrap turning the whole stadium into the olympic cauldron, visible around the olympic park. I hope they think again!

[NY20??]

Mo Rush, on May 27 2008, 05:14 PM, said:

Following the recommendation by CABE to expose the temporary elements of the stadium rather than hide them, the stadium wrap has been adjusted to expose elements of temporary nature of the stadium.

Why exactly did they recommend this?

[DarJoLe]

NY20??, on May 28 2008, 01:14 AM, said:

Why exactly did they recommend this?

"Temporary structure

The unprecedented idea of a temporary Olympic stadium presents exciting design possibilities. We applaud the simplicity and elegance of the structure and we are excited by the potential of the wrap. At the next stage of design development, we encourage the design team to fully exploit and express the temporary nature.

We think that the physically independent components of the stadium - the permanent landscape bowl, and temporary seating stands and roof - should be clearly legible. We therefore note and support the proposal to express the junction between temporary and permanent elements by raising the wrap to reveal the base of the structure.
The drama of the construction and subsequent disassembly of the temporary structure is likely to become an important part of the Olympic spectacle and should be considered as an integral part of the stadium design concept at this stage.
We think that the density of the wrap should allow the temporary structure to be expressed. Importantly, we would expect to see artistic talent of the highest order deployed its design. We assume studies are currently being undertaken into how to re-use or re-cycle what should be an inspiring and meaningful artwork.
LOCOG will need to consider the design integration of the temporary elements, including the wrap and the pods, and their relationship to other temporary structures across the broader Park."

[baron-pierreIV]

Plus to say that 'everything is ephemeral... passing. Only achievements and deeds are lasting."