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[Ikarus360]

baron-pierreIV, on 31 January 2011 - 08:25 AM, said:

/\ I see what you're saying about that hanging "skirt" device in the center, as looking suspiciously very similar to Vancouver's. And the lighting and camera angles are very unclear and confusing.

But what is a singer from Belgium, beautiful and talented as she is, doing at the opening of an Asian Winter Games, in Asian minor? (Her song goes on forever.) Did Jacques get here in there? Does Kazakhstan hope it will get them extra points with Jacques baby??

Well, i've seen the opening ceremony more deeply (through Kaztube, since the videos in Youtube have a bad framerate or are recorded on a camera). There are various elements which are similar to Vancouver, as well for different ones. In fact, the whole ceremony looks like a collection of rejected ideas for the Vancouver OC, but with some exceptions. Although the stadium (which is also a dome) has a smaller capacity, the roof was less ugly, and they installed some kind of a ''fake'' roof above, which served also as a projection screen, and had a hole in the middle which served as a way to bring giant things in the scene. Also, the ''skirt'' device was used on some new ways, like even ''breaking'' and falling to the floor, like glass, during the countdown (which was a bit similar to Delhi with the drums and horns, but much better done).

They didnt used only her but also talent from Kazakshtan (in fact only her and Sumi Jo were the only foreign performers).And yes, Jacques Rogge was present on the opening (the announcers were hideous, even worse than the Torino ones).

For those who liked the Vancouver ceremony i would recomend to watch the Winter Asiad opening. I'll leave you the links here to watch it in Kaztube (its divided in 9 parts), but for the lazy ones i'll post some new vids from YT







http://web1.kaztube....c0-9fd7aac07912
2 бөлім http://web1.kaztube....db-b602df6f5055
3 бөлім http://web1.kaztube....45-56e8782b4c91
4 бөлім http://web1.kaztube....92-6d2626cdbd99
5 бөлім http://web1.kaztube....cb-789d388fe807
6 бөлім http://web1.kaztube....6e-b39c20a6ea79
7 бөлім http://web1.kaztube....de-96ebff331686
8 бөлім http://web1.kaztube....b0-c60f118b94e7
9 бөлім http://web1.kaztube....a3-7c4d671701d3

[olymsu]

hiroamorim, on 25 January 2011 - 03:35 PM, said:

Some stuff I found on youtube.
You can watch the Torino 2006 rehearsal.

I was fortunate to see the "mosh pit" in Torino. We sat right at that end of the stadium. It was very abstract and wacky. When the legs came up it reminded me of the leg lamp from "A Christmas Story". I wish the NBC broadcast would have focused on it a little more. There was so much going on in the arena during each segment I'm sure the producers didn't know what to focus on.

The pit made a great holding area for the athletes as they became a focal point through the ceremony and not pushed off to the side of the arena with the rest of the spectators.

The giant skier was fun but not new. Calgary did a similar presentation. From our vantage point though you had to view the jumbotron to tell what was going on.

[olymsu]

Ikarus360, on 31 January 2011 - 05:33 PM, said:

Well, i've seen the opening ceremony more deeply (through Kaztube, since the videos in Youtube have a bad framerate or are recorded on a camera). There are various elements which are similar to Vancouver, as well for different ones. In fact, the whole ceremony looks like a collection of rejected ideas for the Vancouver OC, but with some exceptions. Although the stadium (which is also a dome) has a smaller capacity, the roof was less ugly, and they installed some kind of a ''fake'' roof above, which served also as a projection screen, and had a hole in the middle which served as a way to bring giant things in the scene. Also, the ''skirt'' device was used on some new ways, like even ''breaking'' and falling to the floor, like glass, during the countdown (which was a bit similar to Delhi with the drums and horns, but much better done).

They didnt used only her but also talent from Kazakshtan (in fact only her and Sumi Jo were the only foreign performers).And yes, Jacques Rogge was present on the opening (the announcers were hideous, even worse than the Torino ones).

For those who liked the Vancouver ceremony i would recomend to watch the Winter Asiad opening. I'll leave you the links here to watch it in Kaztube (its divided in 9 parts), but for the lazy ones i'll post some new vids from YT







http://web1.kaztube....c0-9fd7aac07912
2 бөлім http://web1.kaztube....db-b602df6f5055
3 бөлім http://web1.kaztube....45-56e8782b4c91
4 бөлім http://web1.kaztube....92-6d2626cdbd99
5 бөлім http://web1.kaztube....cb-789d388fe807
6 бөлім http://web1.kaztube....6e-b39c20a6ea79
7 бөлім http://web1.kaztube....de-96ebff331686
8 бөлім http://web1.kaztube....b0-c60f118b94e7
9 бөлім http://web1.kaztube....a3-7c4d671701d3

Beautiful ceremony. Refreshing to see another new culture on the world (asian) stage. Rehashing Vancouver elements don't bother me. I guess projections will be the technology "thing" we'll see for a while. The dignitary box and raised end zone stages are similar to Vancouver's. Did David Atkins have a role in this production?

I was at the ceremony in Vancouver and the skirt and ground projections definitely come off better on television than in person. I'm assuming it's the same technology here. I like how the whole ceiling is included in these projections. I was confused at times too with what exactly I was looking at with the orientation of the cameras. But I wonder if this all looked washed out in person as it did in BC Place. The ceiling of BC Place was not something you'd want the viewers to see. In fact BC Place is a pretty ugly arena and hopefully it get's it's new roof soon.

Regarding the hole in the ceiling screen as it first opened I was reminded of "Independence Day" as the visiting aliens reveal their weapon of mass destruction to destroy Earth's cities : ).


Thanks for posting!

[Ikarus360]

Okay, for those who are interested about who made the Asian Winter Games OC, i finally found some info.

Quote

http://www.astana-al...agenum=1&id=829
The preparation for the opening ceremony of the Asiad-2011 was implemented by the Producer Centre of Igor Krutoy, the famous Russian composer and producer. Alexey Sechenov (Russia), the Director of the Opening Ceremony, says: “Such events are quite rare in the world. I can say that the greatest happiness of people, the residents of this city is the fact that they could come and see this event. The technologies, used in the Asiad-2011 opening ceremony, have no analogues in the world. Some tricks, techniques and special effects have not previously been used anywhere else. They were specially made for this event.” Alexey Sechenov is well-known with his staging devoted to the 60th anniversary of Victory Day in the Red Square, the music festival in Urmala, the “Golden Gramophone” and “MuzTV” prize shows.

Many experts compare the Asiad-2011 opening ceremony with the memorable event such as the opening ceremonies of the Olympic Games-1980 in Moscow, the Olympic Winter Games-2010 in Vancouver and the Asian Summer Games-2010 in Guangzhou.


The main facts:
• 700 professional actors and dancers were involved in the ceremony.
• The total screen space at the stadium covered 10 000 m2.
• The composer Igor Krutoy (Russia) wrote an original soundtrack which was performed by the celebrities of the Kazakhstani variety. It was accompanied by the symphony orchestra.
• According to the regulations, at the opening ceremony the text messages were broadcast in the official language of the hosting country - Kazakh, and English. Moreover, each spectator received a libretto of the opening ceremony in 3 languages (Kazakh, English, and Russian).
• The project capacity of the “Astana-Arena” stadium allows to keep the indoor temperature at +18С, while the outdoor temperature is -30С.
• The total audience number was 27000. The remaining seats were occupied with the stage equipment.

Interesting that most of the ceremony was made by russian people (ironic considering the country opressed Kazakh culture in the past). This is another link with an interview with Alexey Sechenov: http://www.astana.kz/en/node/26481

After the outstanding show they put on, i wonder if Sochi 2014 organizing comittee is considering them as potential people for their ceremonies...

By the way, if someone manages to find a HD quality video of the AWG ceremonies i would appreciate it greatly. Thanks

[hiroamorim]

my favorite part is the countdown

[baron-pierreIV]

Ikarus360, on 10 February 2011 - 05:34 PM, said:

After the outstanding show they put on, i wonder if Sochi 2014 organizing comittee is considering them as potential people for their ceremonies...

I would think they might be the leading candidates for Sochi. Did they also do the Sochi Handover in Vancouver?

But since the Sochi contracts are very political, I think whomever has the most influence with Putin and his gang/associates who are pulling the strings of Sochi, will probably get the Sochi Ceremonies contract.

[baron-pierreIV]

hiroamorim, on 10 February 2011 - 07:20 PM, said:

my favorite part is the countdown

Oooooooooooooooooooooo! That's a cool effect...but the audio is TERRIBLE!!! But that cannot be done in Sochi...not unless they build a temporary roof over that open arena.

2 clips over when that thing descends from the ceiling, it looks like the astrolabe cauldron of Doha.

[hiroamorim]

Finally CBS coverage of Albertville 1992 OC

enjoy it

[Lord David]

baron-pierreIV, on 11 February 2011 - 02:53 AM, said:

Oooooooooooooooooooooo! That's a cool effect...but the audio is TERRIBLE!!! But that cannot be done in Sochi...not unless they build a temporary roof over that open arena.

Actually it could, assuming they want those cloth rings with projections on them, then you build a temporary "roof" and suspend such rings. One of which would be collapsible like shown here for the countdown, the others used in the actual artistic parts of the ceremony.

Then perhaps sometime during the ceremony, could be prior or post parade of nations, the whole "roof" collapses (which would be made of a breakable material that would break on cue and have little soft pieces falling from the "sky" like little snowflakes) This would allow for a visible aerobatic flyby, visible outside fireworks, and a flame that can burn freely in the open air.

[Ikarus360]

Lord David, on 12 February 2011 - 06:57 AM, said:

Actually it could, assuming they want those cloth rings with projections on them, then you build a temporary "roof" and suspend such rings. One of which would be collapsible like shown here for the countdown, the others used in the actual artistic parts of the ceremony.

Then perhaps sometime during the ceremony, could be prior or post parade of nations, the whole "roof" collapses (which would be made of a breakable material that would break on cue and have little soft pieces falling from the "sky" like little snowflakes) This would allow for a visible aerobatic flyby, visible outside fireworks, and a flame that can burn freely in the open air.

It could be done easily if they install a roof structure a la Athens or Beijing. Now, it will be a bit harder to hide elements on the roof like Astana did.

The ones who did the ''skirt'' things first werent Vancouver, but the chinese, at the OC of the last National Games, which showns you dont need a covered stadium to do the trick