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[paul]

Hard to tell but the angle of the video seems to be slightly from the southeast and the flame seems to be centered. So the flame is not in line with the south north axis of the stadium. Therefore it could be on the rim or dead center of the rigging but not at either end on the rim. The flame looks enormous, and at that intensity might creat a conflict with any of the lighting towers if located anywhere on the rim. At this point it seems to be in the center of the rigging.

Edited by paul, 27 July 2012 - 09:37 AM.

[AustralianFan]

And I'm saying it is unlikely he was.

You have no evidence of that.

Its certainly more likely and more common sense for it to be on the Stadium roof than have a flaming Cauldron dangerously suspended by only wires over performers, elite athletes and the world's media below.

Edited by AustralianFan, 27 July 2012 - 09:30 AM.

[nu4m]

You have no evidence of that.

Its certainly more likely than a flaming Cauldron dangerously hanging on wires over performers, elite athletes and the world's media below.

In Sydney the cauldron rode a track less than a few meters away from the audience.
In fact, a cauldron hanging in the centre of a stadium will be further away from people than if it was on the roof.

...and cables hold up many many bridges... There is no reason why they couldn't hold a cauldron up securely.

You have no evidence of that.

You have no evidence he was perfectly inline with he cauldron.

Hard to tell but the angle of the video seems to be slightly from the southeast and the flame seems to be centered. So the flame is not in line with the south north axis of the stadium. Therefore it could be on the rim or dead center of the rigging but not at either end on the rim. The flame looks enormous, and at that intensity might creat a conflict with any of the lighting towers if located anywhere on the rim. At this point it seems to be in the center if the rigging.

I agree with you.

[Bastien]

Hi everyone! I found on google earth the location where the video was broadcasted (I hope it is). Here I did some screenshots :
http://img11.hosting...s/580161og2.jpg
http://img11.hosting...s/350541og3.jpg
http://img11.hosting...s/140536og1.jpg
I hope these pics will help you to establish the location of the cauldron.

[AustralianFan]

In Sydney the cauldron rode a track less than a few meters away from the audience.
In fact, a cauldron hanging in the centre of a stadium will be further away from people than if it was on the roof.

...and cables hold up many many bridges... There is no reason why they couldn't hold a cauldron up securely.


You have no evidence he was perfectly inline with he cauldron.

Neither of us do but the the science of physics has spoke and that scientific possibility does exist because you mentally did the experiment yourself and then posted.

In Sydney the Cauldron rode up on tracks near the audience but was not hanging by wires above people.

If you want to want to believe that the Cauldron will tonight be magically and safely suspended above the athletes, you go ahead and believe that.

I will be watching the Opening Ceremony tonight knowing that the Cauldron lighting will be amazing and thankful that it wont be suspended crazily above our athletes heads, and with the Cauldron not able to get through the network of wires above the arena.

[nu4m]

Hi everyone! I found on google earth the location where the video was broadcasted (I hope it is). Here I did some screenshots :
http://img11.hosting...s/580161og2.jpg
http://img11.hosting...s/350541og3.jpg
http://img11.hosting...s/140536og1.jpg
I hope these pics will help you to establish the location of the cauldron.

Those are great! And I'm surprised it lines up with those entrances. Very very interesting.

[harlequin32]

Forgive me if this has been done and dusted long ago (232 pages is a lot to go though), but doesn't anyone else feel that
1. the shape of the Tor is remarkably like a relatively conventional, but I would say Heatherington-esque, cauldron bowl, upside down.
2. the Tor is too substantial and significant a prop not to have a more exciting purpose than be a stand for a tree or a place for people to perform.

So my though is that as part of the performance the Tor is inverted and transfomed into the cauldron bowl, and then sits on top of something, or is conceivably suspended. (I don't buy the argument that suspension is too dangerous - the whole darn upper part of the stadium relies on cables under tension).

Separately, I do buy Bronze's argument that the flame apparent in the video clip is far more likely to be in the centre of the stadium than anywhere else, unless there is reason to believe the camera in question was deliberately positioned to give that effect.

A permanent flame over centre of stadium does seem unlikely though, so I'm guessing the flame in the video is in a temporary location - but that might mean it moves immediately, or possibly even after the ceremony (which I don't think we'd like, would we?)

But, indeed, not long to wait now.....

[Bastien]

Those are great! And I'm surprised it lines up with those entrances. Very very interesting.

You're right I didn't noticed it!

[AustralianFan]

Hi everyone! I found on google earth the location where the video was broadcasted (I hope it is). Here I did some screenshots :
http://img11.hosting...s/580161og2.jpg
http://img11.hosting...s/350541og3.jpg
http://img11.hosting...s/140536og1.jpg
I hope these pics will help you to establish the location of the cauldron.

Thanks Bastien, you're a legend

Ive reposted your 3rd pic below as it demonstrates clearly and better and more than I ever could with words, all the possible locatons for the Cauldron from the video.

You've thought of some more locations in that line of sight, which is good too.

What i have been saying to Nu4m is that the least likely as far as safety and practicalities is the cauldron being in the centrer of the stadium.

thanks again

[munichfan]

Well, apart from possible lack of safety, how would they bring the cauldron up the cables during the show? For the Olympic rings segment it has to not to be there as it seemsthere will be aerial footage of the rings. Perhaps baron is right with his centre-hole-theory, though i'm wondering how it could rise through the cables then.