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[Galandar]

munichfan, on 05 February 2012 - 02:54 PM, said:

What about the critical relationship to Israel or those long ways between the venues?

Critical relations to Israel? Well in this case many countries have no right to host any championships or even Olympics since many have bad relations with each other. Important is to guarantee security for the team of a country you are in bad relations which I am sure Turkey is going to give to Israel.Then I see no problem.

As for long distance between venues. Do you mean the venues of Madrid or Rome or Tokyo are built nearby? I am sure there is the same problem in all the big cities and from the ones I named especially in Tokyo. If one city needs everything to be located in one district then it should built most of the things from zero for making it a perfect Olympic village (the way Sochi 2014 does it now)

[munichfan]

Remember Madrid 2016! It was one of the most compact venue plans ever. We don't know much about Tokyo 2020 yet, but yeah, Rome will have the same problem.

[Rafa]

Tokyo as a favourite? I just don't get why you would say that.

[intoronto1125]

Rafa, on 05 February 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

Tokyo as a favourite? I just don't get why you would say that.

Because Rome Madrid have economic issues, Istanbul I believe had a spread out venue plan and the other two are non-factors.

[dave199]

I think it's anybody's game besides Baku and Doha. It's obvious why the majority are saying Tokyo is the favourite considering the economic hardships with Italy and Spain. I believe Istanbul is the darkhorse and definitely could surprise. We're just gonna have to wait and see how their bid develops.

[munichfan]

I think it's nonsense complaining about Madrid's and Rome's debt while seeing Tokyo as an economic giant: Japan has the highest debt if you relate it to its GDP (about 233%, number 2 is Greece with about 165%) and the second highest as an absolute number...

[Athensfan]

Interesting point, munichfan.

I'm no economist, but it's very interesting that Japan doesn't seem to be worrying anyone. Their creditors seem content. No one questions their ability to follow through. Whether that is correct or not, perception counts for more than reality in Olympic bids.

[stir.ts]

Is this the most boring bid cycle of all time?

[intoronto1125]

Athensfan, on 06 February 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

Interesting point, munichfan.

I'm no economist, but it's very interesting that Japan doesn't seem to be worrying anyone. Their creditors seem content. No one questions their ability to follow through. Whether that is correct or not, perception counts for more than reality in Olympic bids.

Japanese are the highest savers in the world of their money thats probably why.

[Soaring]

It's a little boring to me because there's no American bid, or controversies just yet. At least it is not as boring as the 2018 Winter bids.

The question of whether Rome will drop out has been interesting though...

I'm sure things will at least start to become a bit more interesting in the months ahead. The IOC's decision to limit the time for bids to market themselves internationally might make things drag a little though.

Also, we don't get many active members from Japan on the forums, so it is always a little harder getting the inside scoop on their bid. Not a good thing for us since they will be in a stronger position this cycle, and there aren't as many bids to follow.

I actually hope Doha is shortlisted, because at least we can see some interesting renders, and hopefully they can stir in some controversies to spice things up.

Edited by Soaring, 06 February 2012 - 04:22 PM.