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F1 2012 - The Official Thread

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Bahrain GP

1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1h35:10.990

2. Raikkonen Lotus-Renault + 3.300

3. Grosjean Lotus-Renault + 10.100

4. Webber Red Bull-Renault + 38.700

5. Rosberg Mercedes + 55.400

6. Di Resta Force India-Mercedes + 57.500

7. Alonso Ferrari + 57.800

8. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes + 58.900

9. Massa Ferrari + 1:04.900

10. Schumacher Mercedes + 1:11.400

11. Perez Sauber-Ferrari + 1:12.700

12. Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes + 1:16.500

13. Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1:30.300

14. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari + 1:33.700

15. Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap

16. Petrov Caterham-Renault + 1 lap

17. Kovalainen Caterham-Renault + 1 lap

18. Button McLaren-Mercedes + 1 lap

19. Glock Marussia-Cosworth + 2 laps

20. De la Rosa HRT-Cosworth + 2 laps

21. Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth + 2 laps

22. Senna Williams-Renault + 3 laps

Drivers Championship

1. Vettel 53

2. Hamilton 49

3. Webber 48

4. Button 43

5. Alonso 43

6. Rosberg 35

7. Raikkonen 34

8. Grosjean 23

9. Perez 22

10. Di Resta 15

11. Senna 14

12. Kobayashi 9

13. Vergne 4

14. Maldonado 4

15. Hulkenberg 2

16. Schumacher 2

17. Massa 2

18. Ricciardo 2

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Didn't watch it as I don't think they should be out there, but heard McLaren screwed up Hamilton's pitstops AGAIN. This is becoming a joke!

Oz - Clutch and pitstop. 3-10 pts lost

Mal - Pitstop 3-10 pts lost

Chn - Gearbox 3-10 pts lost

Bah - Pitstops. 6-11 pts lost

On his consistent performances alone he should be comfortably leading the WDC, but the team continually screw up and have lost him a huge amount of points.

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Bernie Ecclestone Has say, there will have a GP in France in 2013

http://www.lequipe.f...-dit-oui/278825

The track will be Paul Ricard (Le Castelet) South of France

Do you like a race in France? I would be very happy if the German GP would be canceled.

Today was a very artificial race. No spectators, no atmosphere.

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Rosberg didn't won... But Vettel did it again!

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Do you like a race in France? I would be very happy if the German GP would be canceled.

Today was a very artificial race. No spectators, no atmosphere.

Since 2008 there wasn't race in France... But it was a popular race. But maybe since some years F1 was artificial.... I hope this race will be a success.

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Struggling Ferrari reveal major redesign

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The new Ferrari design makes the rear bodywork, in front of and between the rear wheels, much more tightly waisted than before.

It has the benefit of less bodywork obstructing the critical 'coke-bottle' area at the rear, where the bodywork sweeps inwards towards the back of the car.

It also moves the exhaust exits further into the centre of the car, abandoning attempts to gain an aerodynamic benefit from blowing them at the area where the rear wheels meet the floor in an attempt to 'seal' the diffuser and increase downforce.

All teams have been exploring different exhaust positions in an attempt to recover performance lost to the ban on exhaust-blown diffusers - last year's must-have technology, where teams boosted downforce by blowing exhaust gases along the rear floor of the cars even when the driver was off the throttle.

Alonso said the evidence of the first four races, in which cars with very different exhaust designs have been competitive at different times, suggested continuing to chase this area was a waste of time.

"It is not important any more which [exhaust] position you choose and how you manage the position," he said, adding: "I think this year we cannot lose even five minutes on this and there are bigger areas on the car we need to improve and we try to do it."

Alonso set the third fastest time on the final day of the Mugello test, despite an excursion off track in the morning which broke the car's front wing.

He ended up 0.328 seconds slower than pace-setter Romain Grosjean of Lotus. They were split by Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel.

Grosjean's fastest time was one minute 21.035 seconds - 0.232secs quicker than Vettel.

McLaren were the only team not to use their race drivers at the test, preferring to employ test drivers Gary Paffett and Oliver Turvey, instead of Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button.

Red Bull have an upgrade package for the Spanish Grand Prix, but in Mugello were focusing on set-up work with an aim to better understand the 2012 Pirelli tyres.

Lotus also focused on tyre assessment, as well as trying out some aerodynamic and suspension changes to the car.

Grosjean's time was set in the afternoon, when conditions were windier than the morning, when Vettel and Alonso set their fastest laps, although Alonso also got close to his best time later in the day.

Lotus were pleased with the performance of the car. Trackside operations director Alan Permane said they were "flying - it's really good to be able to do 21.0 in the windier afternoon".

BBC

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Spain GP Qualifying

1. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m21.707s

2. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m22.285s + 0.578

3. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m22.302s + 0.595

4. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m22.424s + 0.717

5. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m22.487s + 0.780

6. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1m22.533s + 0.826

7. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m23.005s + 1.298

8. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault No time

9. Michael Schumacher Mercedes No time

10. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari No time

11. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m22.944s + 0.839

12. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m22.977s + 0.872

13. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m23.125s + 1.020

14. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m23.177s + 1.072

15. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m23.265s + 1.160

16. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m23.442s + 1.337

17. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m23.444s + 1.339

18. Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1m24.981s + 2.398

19. Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1m25.277s + 2.694

20. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1m25.507s + 2.924

21. Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1m26.582s + 3.999

22. Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1m27.032s + 4.449

23. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m27.555s + 4.972

24. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1m31.122s + 8.539

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Fourth race on the spin McLaren have completely fucked up Hamilton's race. :angry:

How can you underfuel a car in qualifying? I've got a pocket calculator, I'll take the job of whoever was meant to work that one out.

And 0.5 a second quicker than the rest, they didn't even need to get close to the margins with his fuel!

Complete incompetence from McLaren. Again. :angry:

However, the FIA penalty is also ridiculous, given that only Q3 was affected. A 5-10 place grid penalty would've been fair, not exclusion from qualifying.

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Spain GP results

1. Maldonado Williams-Renault 1h39:09.145

2. Alonso Ferrari + 3.195

3. Raikkonen Lotus-Renault + 3.884

4. Grosjean Lotus-Renault + 14.799

5. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari + 1:14.641

6. Vettel Red Bull-Renault + 1:17.576

7. Rosberg Mercedes + 1:27.919

8. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes + 1:28.100

9. Button McLaren-Mercedes + 1:25.200

10. Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes + 1 lap

11. Webber Red Bull-Renault + 1 lap

12. Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap

13. Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap

14. Di Resta Force India-Mercedes + 1 lap

15. Massa Ferrari + 1 lap

16. Kovalainen Caterham-Renault + 1 lap

17. Petrov Caterham-Renault + 1 lap

18. Glock Marussia-Cosworth + 2 laps

19. De la Rosa HRT-Cosworth + 3 laps

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Major fire breaks out in Williams garage after Spanish Grand Prix

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The Circuit de Catalunya pitlane had to be evacuated following the Spanish Grand Prix after a big fire broke out in the Williams garage.

The fire is initially believed to have been caused by an explosion in the area behind where the cars are worked on.

The pitlane was evacuated and firefighters and ambulances arrived at the scene. It is currently unclear whether there are any injuries.

Williams was still celebrating its first victory since the 2004 season, achieved by Pastor Maldonado moments earlier.

Force India's Otmar Szafnauer told Sky that one of his team's mechanics had been taken to the medical centre for smoking inhalation.

Williams said one of its mechanics was also in the medical centre, but was unsure about the injuries if any.

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/99589

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Lotus rule out Raikkonen rally return

Lotus team principal Eric Boullier has dismissed any notion of Kimi Raikkonen making a one-off return to rallying.

Raikkonen quit Formula One at the end of 2009 and spent two years fulfilling an ambition by competing in the World Rally Championship, albeit with limited success. That resulted in the 2007 world champion returning to F1 this season, signing up with Lotus in tandem with Romain Grosjean.

Raikkonen, however, recently remarked he would love to take part in his home rally in Finland one more time. However, Boullier said: "There was a journalist who asked him if he loves rally - yes. Would you love to do rally again? - yes. Would you love to do your home rally? - yes. There was nothing else, but contractually he cannot do it. End of story."

Notably, Lotus - known as Renault last year - allowed Robert Kubica to compete in a rally event prior to the start of the campaign.

The Pole, however, was involved in a horrendous accident which resulted in him requiring several operations, and it is almost certain he will never return to F1 again.

Recalling that, Boullier added: "Obviously there is a trauma here after 2011.

"But we can't have a contract with the drivers that has a clause that allows them to take any risk because they are so valuable to the team.

"So, rallying, skiing, whatever you want. It is not allowed."

UKPA

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Monaco

Schumacher was fatest but will rue penalty for his shunt into Senna in Spain

Webber earns the pole

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Monaco Grand Prix qualifying

2. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m14.381s

3. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m14.448s

4. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m14.583s

5. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m14.639s

6. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m14.948s

1. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m14.301s (5 place penalty)

7. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m15.049s

8. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m15.199s

10. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault no time

11. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m15.421s + 0.510

12. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m15.508s + 0.597

13. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m15.536s + 0.625

14. Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1m15.709s + 0.798

15. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m15.718s + 0.807

16. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m15.878s + 0.967

17. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m16.885s + 1.974

18. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1m16.538s + 1.120

9. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m15.245s (10 place penalty)

19. Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1m17.404s + 1.986

20. Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1m17.947s + 2.529

21. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m18.096s + 2.678

22. Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1m18.476s + 3.058

23. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1m19.310s + 3.892

24. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari no time

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Monaco GP

1. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1h46:06.557

2. Rosberg Mercedes + 0.643

3. Alonso Ferrari + 0.947

4. Vettel Red Bull-Renault + 1.343

5. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes + 4.101

6. Massa Ferrari + 6.195

7. Di Resta Force India-Mercedes + 41.537

8. Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes + 42.562

9. Raikkonen Lotus-Renault + 44.036

10. Senna Williams-Renault + 44.516

11. Perez Sauber-Ferrari + 1 lap

12. Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap

13. Kovalainen Caterham-Renault + 1 lap

14. Glock Marussia-Cosworth + 1 lap

15. Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth + 2 laps

Drivers Championship

1. Alonso 76

2. Vettel 73

3. Webber 73

4. Hamilton 63

5. Rosberg 59

6. Raikkonen 51

7. Button 45

8. Grosjean 35

9. Maldonado 29

10. Perez 22

11. Di Resta 21

12. Kobayashi 19

13. Senna 15

14. Massa 10

15. Hulkenberg 7

16. Vergne 4

17. Schumacher 2

18. Ricciardo 2

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Canada gp qualifying

1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m13.784s

2. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m14.087s + 0.303

3. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m14.151s + 0.367

4. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m14.346s + 0.562

5. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m14.411s + 0.627

6. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m14.465s + 0.681

7. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m14.645s + 0.861

8. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m14.705s + 0.921

9. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m14.812s + 1.028

10. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m15.182s + 1.398

11. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m14.688s + 0.501

12. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m14.734s + 0.547

13. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m14.748s + 0.561

14. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m15.078s + 0.891

15. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1m15.156s + 0.969

16. Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1m15.170s + 0.983

17. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m15.231s + 1.044

18. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1m16.263s + 1.602

19. Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1m16.482s + 1.821

20. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m16.602s + 1.941

21. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m17.492s + 2.831

22. Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1m17.901s + 3.240

23. Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1m18.255s + 3.594

24. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1m18.330s + 3.669

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Hamilton the seventh winner in 7 races

Canada GP

1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1h32:29.586

2. Grosjean Lotus-Renault + 2.513

3. Perez Sauber-Ferrari + 5.260

4. Vettel Red Bull-Renault + 7.295

5. Alonso Ferrari + 13.411

6. Rosberg Mercedes + 13.842

7. Webber Red Bull-Renault + 15.085

8. Raikkonen Lotus-Renault + 15.567

9. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari + 24.432

10. Massa Ferrari + 25.272

11. Di Resta Force India-Mercedes + 37.693

12. Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes + 46.236

13. Maldonado Williams-Renault + 47.052

14. Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1:04.475

15. Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap

16. Button McLaren-Mercedes + 1 lap

17. Senna Williams-Renault + 1 lap

18. Kovalainen Caterham-Renault + 1 lap

19. Petrov Caterham-Renault + 1 lap

20. Pic Marussia-Cosworth + 2 laps

Drivers Chamionship

1. Hamilton 88

2. Alonso 86

3. Vettel 85

4. Webber 79

5. Rosberg 67

6. Raikkonen 55

7. Grosjean 53

8. Button 45

9. Perez 37

10. Maldonado 29

11. Kobayashi 21

12. Di Resta 21

13. Senna 15

14. Massa 11

15. Hulkenberg 7

16. Vergne 4

17. Schumacher 2

18. Ricciardo 2

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So pleased for Lewis! He's deserved this the way he's driven this season. And nice of Red Bull and Ferrari to let him get two nice (but easy) overtakes in as well - the win wouldn't have been quite the same had they pitted at the right time! :D

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