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[deawebo]

It's too soon but... 2022 should be Africa... So... 2026!

[markun]

I hope not. I'd prefer somewhere like Singapore with some life and culture and people.

[intoronto1125]

markun, on 11 November 2011 - 07:23 PM, said:

I hope not. I'd prefer somewhere like Singapore with some life and culture and people.

Not meant to be in defence of Hambantota, they will likely have a more compelling argument.

[markun]

Although I have said elsewhere, I would like the Games to be spread out more and be of a manageable scale which is affordable for smaller cities otherwise you will run out of viable hosts. Question remains for me, is Hambantota a viable host?

[Lord David]

Hambantota will bid for 2022 with everything but the Velodrome and athlete's village in place.

There might be a tweak from their 2018 bid with perhaps a new major arena or a slight change in sports.

[intoronto1125]

markun, on 11 November 2011 - 07:53 PM, said:

Although I have said elsewhere, I would like the Games to be spread out more and be of a manageable scale which is affordable for smaller cities otherwise you will run out of viable hosts. Question remains for me, is Hambantota a viable host?

If they build their city up they have the most compact plan ever.

Lord David, on 12 November 2011 - 02:24 AM, said:

Hambantota will bid for 2022 with everything but the Velodrome and athlete's village in place.

There might be a tweak from their 2018 bid with perhaps a new major arena or a slight change in sports.

A 2022 bid likely will have track cycling dropped. There are rumors Nigeria voted against the bid (therefore convincing other African countries) because Archery would have replaced basketball (from the Gold Coast's bid) in which Nigeria is strong.

[afiqnadzir]

maybe kuala lumpur 2022 is very suitable for it celebrating achievement after reach2020 develop country

[intoronto1125]

afiqnadzir, on 12 November 2011 - 01:38 PM, said:

maybe kuala lumpur 2022 is very suitable for it celebrating achievement after reach2020 develop country

I doubt KL bids for the 2022 games. They should focus on the Asian Games if anything.

[Lord David]

intoronto1125, on 12 November 2011 - 09:45 AM, said:

If they build their city up they have the most compact plan ever.



A 2022 bid likely will have track cycling dropped. There are rumors Nigeria voted against the bid (therefore convincing other African countries) because Archery would have replaced basketball (from the Gold Coast's bid) in which Nigeria is strong.

If that were the case, then perhaps the CGF should consider putting a proper defined list of sports, not this core sports and others deal. Even if it meant increasing the number of sports in the program.

I'd go for:

Athletics*
Aquatics (Swimming and Diving)
Badminton
Basketball**
Boxing
Cricket
Cycling
Gymnastics**
Hockey
Judo***
Lawn Bowls
Netball
Rowing
Rugby 7's*
Shooting
Table Tennis
Tennis
Triathlon
Weightlifting
Wrestling***

*Can be shared venue (Athletics and Rugby 7's)
**Can be shared venue (Basketball (finals) and Gymnastics)
***Can be shared venue (Judo and Wrestling)

We have here around 21 sports, compared to 26 at the 2012 Olympics (note some are not Olympic Sports).

To increase flexibility, the Commonwealth Games should be expanded to a 14 or even 16 day format, than the current 11 day format.

To help lower costs, there should be more baseline capacities for events.

Athletics - 25,000
Aquatics (Swimming and Diving) - 5,000 (total)
Badminton - 1,000
Basketball - 1,000 (Prelims) 5,000 (Finals)
Boxing - 1,000
Cricket - 5,000 (can be mixed seated stands and lawn)
Cycling - 2,000
Gymnastics - 5,000
Hockey - 5,000 (can be 1 or 2 fields)
Judo - 1,000
Lawn Bowls - 1,000
Netball - 2,000
Rowing - 5,000
Rugby 7's - 5,000
Shooting - 1,000
Table Tennis - 1,000
Tennis - 3,000 (for main court)
Triathlon - unlimited
Weightlifting - 1,000 (can use existing theater or amphitheater or plenary hall)
Wrestling - 1,000

Temporary venues will be favoured if the legacy of a venue is deemed not appropriate or non justifiable post Commonwealth Games, as long as they meet International Federation guidelines. One such venue would be Rowing, assuming an adequate stretch of water is available, then temporary stands could be placed for the event.

If a larger venue (fully seated) is available for ceremonies, that should be considered, otherwise the Athletics venue will be adequate.

By lowering Athletics (and therefore ceremonies) capacity to 25,000, a considerably far greater scope of Commonwealth cities and nations can host, without the need for extravagantly expanding their stadiums or proposing to build such specifically for the event (even if it were downsized post Commonwealth Games).

[Rols O'Bertilsson]

Lord David, on 12 November 2011 - 10:59 PM, said:

If that were the case, then perhaps the CGF should consider putting a proper defined list of sports, not this core sports and others deal. Even if it meant increasing the number of sports in the program.

Christ NO, please!

That's one of the best things about the CWGs that set them apart from the rest, the fact that the games can be tailored by the individual host. So what if the roster leads to some implications for the vote? It's just another factor in a city's campaign plans - and anyway, the IFs have their influence and preferred locations form any campaign anyway.

And why would you wanna make the CWGs bigger? The size is about right now for a good second-tier event that is within reach of commonwealth cities who couldn't dream of an olympics. Much bigger, and i think they could very well face more criticisms and be at risk. There's no reason for them to get more bloated - in the CWGs case, I do think less is more.