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[memorabilia]

Rumours are more and more accurate....
I know that could seem crazy, but a decision would have been taken by Toronto & the COC.... to Bid for the 2020 Summer Games !!!
When will we have an official announcement ???

[faster]

memorabilia, on 30 July 2011 - 07:24 PM, said:

Rumours are more and more accurate....
I know that could seem crazy, but a decision would have been taken by Toronto & the COC.... to Bid for the 2020 Summer Games !!!
When will we have an official announcement ???

Here is what I know:

The Federal Government has been approached about a bid, along with the Provincial government the proposals have been viewed favourably
The civic government is another matter, the Ford regime does not want to put itself out on something like the Olympics and the COC is very concerned about a Toronto bid being perceived to be incapable of delivering what it promised due to poor civic leadership (the current transportation battle highlights this)
The COC has told all parties involved that it is out of the question to spread the games out as much as the Pan Ams have been.
The COC has recieved encouraging support from various factions of the IFs and within the IOC. Specifically the French, German and Swiss.
The COC wants to bid and thinks that there is no better time to bid then 2020 with it being as wide-open as it is and with so many European nations wanting 2022.

Oh and according to one source:

Japan, Spain, Italy and Canada have all hosted games within recent memory. Out of the 4 Canada and Spain left the best impressions on the IOC and that could mitigate the closeness of it. All will be going for their 2nd summer games and all but Spain have hosted the winter version twice, most successfully by Canada.

Edited by Faster, 30 July 2011 - 07:42 PM.

[memorabilia]

Faster, on 30 July 2011 - 07:40 PM, said:

Here is what I know:

The Federal Government has been approached about a bid, along with the Provincial government the proposals have been viewed favourably
The civic government is another matter, the Ford regime does not want to put itself out on something like the Olympics and the COC is very concerned about a Toronto bid being perceived to be incapable of delivering what it promised due to poor civic leadership (the current transportation battle highlights this)
The COC has told all parties involved that it is out of the question to spread the games out as much as the Pan Ams have been.
The COC has recieved encouraging support from various factions of the IFs and within the IOC. Specifically the French, German and Swiss.
The COC wants to bid and thinks that there is no better time to bid then 2020 with it being as wide-open as it is and with so many European nations wanting 2022.

Oh and according to one source:

Japan, Spain, Italy and Canada have all hosted games within recent memory. Out of the 4 Canada and Spain left the best impressions on the IOC and that could mitigate the closeness of it. All will be going for their 2nd summer games and all but Spain have hosted the winter version twice, most successfully by Canada.

I did not know about the Federal or Provincial governement, nore the "civic governement" (by the way, what is it exactly), but what you said about the NOC confirmed what i have been told !

Edited by memorabilia, 30 July 2011 - 11:27 PM.

[Gucci]

They need to go for it. I like Toronto's chances here better than what they had to face in the 2008 race.

Public money won't be used for a bid? Am I correct?

[Lord David]

This is indeed Toronto's best chance. You got a potential Berlin bid, possibly last minute Doha and Baku to be added in the race.

Given the competition, it would indeed be their best chance in spite of Rio hosting in 2016.

As for public funds, it's not the issue come bid stage, as I'm sure corporate funding will be secured to finance the bid. It's more so the public funding which will be used for the construction of sports venues etc. Things like the athletes' village will be privately financed.

The question is, will Toronto folks want to spend the additional 2 to 3 billion to fund an Olympics on top of their 1.5 billion spent on their 2015 Pan American Games?

[Gucci]

From my understanding, the city of Toronto wouldn't foot the bill. From my understandings, it will be the Federal/Provincial governments.


Just thinking about the possibility of having the first Olympic city to host Rowing/Canoeing right in front of the Olympic Stadium and the downtown core skyline would be spectacular.

[Lord David]

^^ Well that was the plan for 2008. However, if they do decide to cheapen things a little and spread out competition venues (as is the case for 2015, alongside using the downtown), then it will most likely be St Catherines hosting rowing rather than a temporary course downtown.

Edited by Lord David, 30 July 2011 - 11:40 PM.

[blacktrojan3921]

memorabilia, on 30 July 2011 - 07:58 PM, said:

I did not know about the Federal or Provincial governement, nore the "civic governement" (by the way, what is it exactly), but what you said about the NOC confirmed what i have been told !

Basically it's the fancy pants way of saying City Hall, including the incumbent Mayor Rob Ford and the city council. Personally, I am rather surprised Rob is really hesitant on agreeing on this bid; one of the big tidbit gossip surrounding him is that he is really eager to bring an NFL team to the big T.O. Of course it's next to impossible thanks to Rogers Centre being too small; with the Olympics it will be a perfect excuse for him to build an NFL sized stadium.

[Athensfan]

Faster, on 30 July 2011 - 07:40 PM, said:

Japan, Spain, Italy and Canada have all hosted games within recent memory. Out of the 4 Canada and Spain left the best impressions on the IOC and that could mitigate the closeness of it. All will be going for their 2nd summer games and all but Spain have hosted the winter version twice, most successfully by Canada.

I see your point, but the fact remains that Canada will have hosted Olympic Games a scant 3 years prior to the 2020 vote. I just can't see the IOC handing them Summer Games so quickly.

[mattygs]

Athensfan, on 31 July 2011 - 03:33 AM, said:

I see your point, but the fact remains that Canada will have hosted Olympic Games a scant 3 years prior to the 2020 vote. I just can't see the IOC handing them Summer Games so quickly.

Yeah, I mean, it's been said time and time again - but, it's just too soon.
Toronto may be a fantastic host, but Canada has really been on Olympic overload in the last 40 years.

In the space of just over 40 years we'd have

- Montreal 76
- Calgary 88
- Vancouver 2010
- Toronto 2020

No matter how you look at it, success measured, comparing to other countries - that is a sh1tload for one country in such a short period of time (in terms of Olympiads at least). We're averaging 1 Olympics every decade here.
Especially when we have people saying Australia will have to wait until the 2040's to host another Olympic Games.