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[GBModerator]

The Colorado Springs Gazette reports the United States Olympic Committee (USOC) is considering a bid for the Youth Olympic Games, and Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina, as

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[FYI]

Is the USOC THAT desperate.

[drumcorpsboy]

It's not that they are desperate. There are plenty of cities in the US that aren't big enough to host the Olympics, but can host a Youth Olympics. Raliegh/Durham , NC is a good candidate.

[RobH]

And in terms of building up relationships and mending any damage from the past couple of years it can't hurt USOC either.

[FYI]

It's far deeper than just saying "there are plenty of cities in the U.S. that aren't big enough to host the Olympics, but can host a Youth Olympics".

These are issues that have been discussed here quite throughly since last year's 2016 Olympic election. I'd suggest you read up on the archives since you just joined yesterday.

[FYI]

RobH, on 02 September 2010 - 02:57 PM, said:

And in terms of building up relationships and mending any damage from the past couple of years it can't hurt USOC either.

Well, isn't that what the USOC contemplating a 2022 Winter Olympic Bid was all about. To mend & rebuild damaged relations between the USOC & IOC?

I don't think trying for these youth things is necessary for that. On the contrary, I think it would thwart any future REAL "Olympic" ambitions if we wound up with Raleigh or Lake Placid. Just look at Austria. The IOC finally decided to throw them a bone of the "youth olympics" after several shot-downs for the real thing.

[drumcorpsboy]

FYI, on 02 September 2010 - 03:06 PM, said:

Well, isn't that what the USOC contemplating a 2022 Winter Olympic Bid was all about. To mend & rebuild damaged relations between the USOC & IOC?

I don't think trying for these youth things is necessary for that. On the contrary, I think it would thwart any future REAL "Olympic" ambitions if we wound up with Raleigh or Lake Placid. Just look at Austria. The IOC finally decided to throw them a bone of the "youth olympics" after several shot-downs for the real thing.

I actually am aware of the issues between the USOC and the IOC even if I haven't visited this board since 2005 and I don't think just bidding for a YOG or any games for that matter will mend fences. Let's face it, the IOC is made up of spoiled, stingy mostly Europeans (no offense) who love to hold grudges (just look at Switzerland). There is a lot more that needs to be done behind the scenes, but I don't think contemplating a bid qualifies the USOC as "desperate."

As for a US YOG bid "thwarting" a possible 2022 bid, 2014-2008 equals...um, let's see...6 - the number of years between Beijing 2008 and Nanjing 2014.

[FYI]

drumcorpsboy, on 02 September 2010 - 05:57 PM, said:

There is a lot more that needs to be done behind the scenes, but I don't think contemplating a bid qualifies the USOC as "desperate."

As for a US YOG bid "thwarting" a possible 2022 bid, 2014-2008 equals...um, let's see...6 - the number of years between Beijing 2008 and Nanjing 2014.

I didn't say contemplating a bid qualifies the USOC as desperate (i.e. possible 2022 Winter Olympic Bid). What I said was thinking on bidding for a YOUTH olympic games seems like desperation. Especially when it's not really necessary to just jump into things.

As for Beijing & Nanjing - Beijing (the REAL Olympic Games) was first. Nanjing (the redundant games) came afterwards. China's willing to give these youth things everything they got, so what not give it to the Chinese, especially when these second rate games have barely gotten off the ground. Certainly Jacques Rogge (the creater of this) would be quite happy with that. And besides, China's only competition for the youth games was Poland & Mexico, which Mexico later withdrew.

In the U.S.' case it would be the opposite - youth games first, then asking for the much, much bigger fish afterwards that EVERYONE else wants to cash in on these days. So the U.S. would have no real advantage regardless, so why bother. Mending relations is one thing (which the USOC has already started to incorporate, by trying to negotiate new financial terms with the IOC, etc), but it's quite another to be brown nosing.

[nykfan845]

But a Youth Olympics Games bid doesn't seem like desperation?

I mean, it's a way for smaller cities to get in on the Olympic movement no? And it's a sign of support for the IOC and the youth movement. I really don't agree, FYI. I mean, it's not like it'll void any future SOG/WOG bid, right? Unless that's your main concern, and I highly, highly doubt it would impact a future SOG/WOG.

Edited by nykfan845, 03 September 2010 - 12:21 AM.

[Dino]

Seems to me is that JR is trying to enhance his legacy as the president who diversified the Olympic product by diversifying into these small businesses and venturing into "new territories." I agree that the YOGs are redundant and unnecessary. What it looks like is that he's steering the IOC into a McDonald's-look-a-like by getting into the coffee business and oversaturating the market. From a business standpoint, oversaturation can lead to a lack of interest. Oh wait, I forgot that Poland was the only one that competed against Nanjing, and there are currently only 3 bidders for the next winter games.