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[intoronto1125]

dave199, on 20 February 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

Yeah I'm thinking that the Veledrome from the Pan Am Games will be the Olympic venue. It just makes much more sense since Milton's Veledrome will be a permanent Veledrome facility after the Pan Ams. The 2nd one in North America.

Its too far. Propose a new venue first. If the bid is successful and the IOC okays it then switch

[olympikfan]

Do you still believe that Toronto will make a bid after Ontario's budget?

[intoronto1125]

olympikfan, on 30 March 2012 - 09:04 AM, said:

Do you still believe that Toronto will make a bid after Ontario's budget?

Things will be better in four years.

[Lord David]

intoronto1125, on 20 February 2012 - 09:36 PM, said:

Its too far. Propose a new venue first. If the bid is successful and the IOC okays it then switch

Or you use the Pan Am venues to you're advantage.

Whatever is used as the athletics venue can serve as a training facility.
The velodrome serves as a training venue on top of a temporary one built for the Olympics.
The aquatics centre in the university serves as a preliminaries venue and training venue on top of a permanent one built for the Olympics.

and so forth...

Some venues such as the Field Hockey stadium could serve the Olympics in an expanded state.

[Olympic Fan Darcy]

I love Canada and would definitely go to Toronto olympics! 1996 3rd, 2008 2nd I think there's potential

[Lord David]

^^ Only if Toronto proposes something similar to 2008. From my understanding, the 1996 bid utilized as much existing venues in the region, whilst the 2008 bid proposed many downtown venues, with a few existing venues outside of Toronto. Rowing for example was on the waterfront, even though St Catherines would still host Canoeing, they wanted that stunning skyline backdrop which Chicago proposed in 2016.

They must offer a far more compact bid than the 2015 Pan Ams, which could use legacy venues specifically built for the Pan Ams, like the Aquatics Center at the University and the Field Hockey venues. Eliminate St Catherines if possible (so just make rowing and canoeing in the waterfront) and just make it Toronto proper and Hamilton (with possibly Markham, should they get their new major arena).

The key is to be as compact as possible. No point going back to 1996 after presenting such a nice compact 2008 bid.

Edited by Lord David, 17 April 2012 - 07:01 AM.

[intoronto1125]

Olympic Fan Darcy, on 17 April 2012 - 05:09 AM, said:

I love Canada and would definitely go to Toronto olympics! 1996 3rd, 2008 2nd I think there's potential

Of course thanks for the like !

[intoronto1125]

Lord David, on 17 April 2012 - 06:58 AM, said:

^^ Only if Toronto proposes something similar to 2008. From my understanding, the 1996 bid utilized as much existing venues in the region, whilst the 2008 bid proposed many downtown venues, with a few existing venues outside of Toronto. Rowing for example was on the waterfront, even though St Catherines would still host Canoeing, they wanted that stunning skyline backdrop which Chicago proposed in 2016.

They must offer a far more compact bid than the 2015 Pan Ams, which could use legacy venues specifically built for the Pan Ams, like the Aquatics Center at the University and the Field Hockey venues. Eliminate St Catherines if possible (so just make rowing and canoeing in the waterfront) and just make it Toronto proper and Hamilton (with possibly Markham, should they get their new major arena).

The key is to be as compact as possible. No point going back to 1996 after presenting such a nice compact 2008 bid.

I think the best thing to do for a future bid is cluster the venues like RIO is doing. All venues likely (-minus football) can be held in the city proper. The aquatics centre can hold water polo and diving. The Field hockey venue is certainly going to be temporarily expanded if Toronto gets the games. I proposed a venue plan earlier only three-four venues were outside the city proper. The BMX track, mountain biking, archery, tennis stadium and water polo venues would also be the only ones outside the downtown core. @Lord David only canoe slalom was proposed for St.Catherines.

[intoronto1125]

Interesting to note:

http://www.thestar.c...-new-streetcars

"
City of Toronto surplus surges to $292 million, most of which will help buy new streetcars"


The city is the only three to refuse a bid, and if they had known of a surplus I am pretty sure they would have bid and likely would have been a favourite to win it all (2020).

[intoronto1125]

Interesting to note a survey by the 2015 Pan Am committee is asking how important it is to Toronto to host an Olympics within 20 years?