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[ghost1]

Could this really happen? And when? I think the nearest possible year would be 2022 - 20 years since 2002, although it's still too early. I think you will all agree. Why then do they start planning? Is this just a PR action or is it a joke?

[e1ena]

ghost1, on Feb. 13 2006,11:38, said:

Could this really happen? And when? I think the nearest possible year would be 2022 - 20 years since 2002, although it's still too early. I think you will all agree. Why then do they start planning? Is this just a PR action or is it a joke?

Innsbruck sort-of did it but that was in awkward circumstances, of course, because they stepped in.

I don't think you could -realistically- have the WOGs in the same place twice without a gap of at least 30 years. There's a lot of other resorts and countries wanting a shot at it nowadays and the IOC like their diversity. There's places like Sweden, Russia, Asia... they all want their bite of the apple.

I'm sure Salt Lake City could _try_ again but I doubt the IOC would vote for them until at least, what, 2032? Could be even longer. And seeing as SLC became synonymous with bribery, would the IOC really want to award the games to the city twice in a such a short time?

[ghost1]

Ha, I posted that before Gamesbids.com

http://www.gamesbids.com/cgi-bin....9850608

[Rols O'Bertilsson]

I'm sure SLC is a perfect back-up venue for the IOC at the moment in case of a host drop out (you'd better watch your back, Vancouver). To win on its own merits so soon? Well, as just about everyone here has already said, there's lots of contenders lining up in the queue in front of it.

[saltlake2002]

The other thing to consider is simply that Utah has an excellent chance of being selected to represent the United States at which point it is up to the IOC to either select a city who has had the games, or depending on the strategic bid, the US may be up or due for an Olympics in which they will award Salt Lake the games.

Also keep in mind. Salt Lake had successful games from an IOC, city, and broadcasting view. It also made over 100 million, only one other Olympics has done that, L.A. and possibly Lillehammer.

[Rols O'Bertilsson]

Guardian, on Feb. 17 2006,22:11, said:

One: monetary matters in this regard is really subjected to one's vast opinions. Two: I do not like the idea of "permanent hostings." It has been discussed in IOC debates over time since its founding in 1894 and every time it went down in "flames." I'm sure that it will be discussed "again", but those nations with Olympic aspirations will always defeat it.

Exactly _ every four years someone always tries to suggest Greece as a permanent summer host _ and it just gets ignored. One way to guarantee the games would die would be to give them to permanent hosts. As long as there is every a new city interested in hosting them, it'll never happen.

[Guardian]

roltel, on Feb. 17 2006,14:32, said:

Guardian, on Feb. 17 2006,22:11, said:

One: monetary matters in this regard is really subjected to one's vast opinions. Two: I do not like the idea of "permanent hostings." It has been discussed in IOC debates over time since its founding in 1894 and every time it went down in "flames." I'm sure that it will be discussed "again", but those nations with Olympic aspirations will always defeat it.

Exactly _ every four years someone always tries to suggest Greece as a permanent summer host _ and it just gets ignored. One way to guarantee the games would die would be to give them to permanent hosts. As long as there is every a new city interested in hosting them, it'll never happen.

Norway, Scandinavian region, or certain countries of Europe as "permanent hosts" of the Winter Olympics, as the counterpart.

To me, this is really ridiculous and self-defeating, especially on what the 7 applicant cities are offering to host the 2014 Winter Olympics. I think this is really refreshing to me what the SIX, out of all of them, have to offer to the IOC.

[LA84]

Guardian, on Feb. 19 2006,05:40, said:

Alexjc, on Feb. 17 2006,19:37, said:

Even if SL keeps it's facilities in tip top condition, it will be at least 20 years before the US will host the Winter Olympics and Reno Tahoe would win favour over Salt Lake if that area decides to bid.

Oh, yeah. With the advances of winter sporting achievement lately, will SLC even have the venues ready for the next time the Winter Olympics comes back to the city? I really doubt it. Why do you think Lake Placid is trying to modernized its facilities lately, hmm? Or, like this poster said, there are possible alternate US cities that could usurp SLC in both venues and legacy.

Very true.

The U.S. and Canada are limited on where they can go for a WOG.  And with the high costs associated with hosting, the days of a Lake Placid are over.

Salt Lake, Vancouver, Calgary, Quebec City, Denver, Reno-Tahoe, Anchorage, maybe Squaw Valley again are becoming the only real alternatives.  A Salt Lake bid in the next 20 years is not that far fetched, although I think Reno-Tahoe and perhaps another Calgary win will come first.

[LA84]

Wow.  I knew that a lot of the venues were being overhauled in Calgary but I did not know it was so extensive.

But good for Calgary.  With these improvements and hosting world events it sets itself up well for a repeat games, something I personally would like to see again.

[baron-pierreIV]

The one big difference though is that until recently, Lake Placid was the USOC's Official Winter Sports training center (for the arena, ski-jumping, the biathlon area and the luge runs).  So the USOC was helping subsidize the upkeep of the few Lake Placid facilities.  (The Ski team would train elsewhere (where the seasons dictated); and the Speedskaters had the facility in West Allis, Wisconsin, as their home base.)  

Maybe Canada had the same intentions for the Calgary faciltiies?  I haven't heard how Salt Lake will work with the USOC and he Winter federations vis-a-vis long-term use.